Hann-G Hi221D - Flicker then black

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  • wmansir
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    • Jan 2016
    • 6
    • United States

    #1

    Hann-G Hi221D - Flicker then black

    Background:
    The monitor is from 2008, used 12+ hours a day. The monitor first had problems about 3 years ago. Once or twice a month it would just go black for a few seconds and then come back on. Until one day it didn't come back on. I could power cycle it and it would turn on for a few seconds and then go black. I don't recall it flickering before it went out, but it may have.

    After some googling and reading here I took it apart and noticed a popped cap. Having never done anything like this I figured I would gamble $5 that it was the problem so I ordered a replacement cap and replace it. It was surprisingly easy and it worked!

    Current Symptoms:
    A few months ago the same symptoms started up. Very rarely, blackness for a few seconds. Last week it went off for good. I can turn it on and if it is cold it works for a couple of minutes and then goes black. If I power cycle it after this it will stay on for 10-30 seconds, start flickering in brightness for several seconds and then black. Power light stays on the entire time.

    What I've done so far:

    I opened it up again and found another cap had popped. This time I ordered all the caps except the one I had already replaced. I hindsight perhaps I should have done that one too, but at the time I kind of assumed the problem was the old next to it that had popped and I was just replacing all the other old caps to avoid future issues.

    I replaced 4 Su'scon SG and one Samsox GK, with equivalent United Chem KZE caps. I also replaced 2 Su'scon SH (47uf, 25v, 125 deg C) with Rubicon RX30 (47uf, 50v, 130 c) because they were the closest high temp caps I could find.

    I didn't actually replace all the caps because I noticed that 5 I ordered were actually for the audio, which is and has never been used. I also didn't replace the large Su'scon 150uf 420v cap. (These are all in the bottom right corner in the first pic)

    After this was done I put it all back together and it seemed to work fine for 2 minutes, until it went black. The symptoms were unchanged. I have taken it apart again, inspected all the soldering joints, particularly my own, and they look good to my eye.

    I suspect it may also be the CCFLs. I popped off the bottom frame and one of the two lamps was pretty scorched at both ends. I don't know if that indicates a problem or not. (see second pic)

    I only have a multimeter for testing. I may be able to cannibalize a currently dead all-in-one PC for it's CCFLs for testing. Any advice is appreciated.
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  • diif
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2014
    • 6978
    • England

    #2
    Re: Hann-G Hi221D - Flicker then black

    Yes, that looks like a failed CCFL to me. You will need a spare on for testing.
    Plug in the good ones and the spare and power on the monitor. It should stay lit.

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    • wmansir
      New Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 6
      • United States

      #3
      Re: Hann-G Hi221D - Flicker then black

      Actually getting the CCFL lights out of the AIO PC would have been a major pain so instead I was able to disconnect the lead and hook one up to the output from my monitor while leaving it in place.

      I played around with it a bit, and the burnt bulb is definitely on it's way out, dimmer than its partner and taking several seconds to get up to temp, plus the very tips glow red. Unfortunately, for diagnostic purposes, the monitor had a bit of a resurgence and even when put back in it's original state it wasn't flickering much even after an hour. Although if I cranked brightness all the way I did get a little flickering and it started making some noise. I didn't want to risk burning anything out so I'm waiting on the new CCFLs.

      I ordered a full set of CCFL lights in frames off ebay, from china so it will take a few weeks. Now I just have to look into the best way to take apart the top end of the frame, which contains the LCD connections.
      Last edited by wmansir; 01-03-2016, 04:39 AM.

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      • wmansir
        New Member
        • Jan 2016
        • 6
        • United States

        #4
        Re: Hann-G Hi221D - Flicker then black

        UPDATE: CCFLs arrived today. Tested, installed and running for about 4 hours now with no issues.

        Well I have noticed some shading/uneven lighting around the top/bottom edge, but it's minor. The monitor has always had an issue with edge bleeding, so it may not be something new. Nothing I'm going to disassemble this thing again over.

        Like I said in my previous post, I ordered the replacement ccfls off ebay. $12 for the pair, (4 ccfls total) pre wired in frames. They were very similar to the old ones, fit perfectly, plugged right in. One difference is the new plugs aren't locking, which is good because those locking tabs are such a pain they probably cause more problems than they prevent. Took about 2.5 weeks. I was concerned about shipping damage but they were packaged very well.

        A lot of the domestic places I looked at didn't even have 22" frames in stock, and if they did it would have been 3-4x the price, even just the bulbs without wiring/frames would have been 2x for all 4. I'm hoping these last, but I'm sure they are all from china anyway.

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