NEC LCD1970NX clicking for no apparent reason

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Behemot
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2009
    • 4845
    • CZ

    #1

    NEC LCD1970NX clicking for no apparent reason

    It's basically the same board as here https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ghlight=1970NX just the D108 is present with cap C121. PSU is clicking as in protection mode, no idea why.

    There is supposed to be +5 and +12 V and that extra rail with an N-FET (AO4405) which outputs to some sound bar (not sure if the owner used it). It is somewhat darkened around the source but FET does not seem to be shorted (I read the internal diode so worst case is the FET is opened). Small SOT-23 transistor (most likely 2N7002) the same.

    When I turned it on I read voltage oscilating around as much as 20 V on the +12 V rail while +5 V was done around 1,5. I thought maybe the FETs are bad anyway and the voltage is from the auxiliary rail but when I lifted the D108, voltage dropped to 18 V on +12 V otherwise the same.

    All rectifiers and inverter FETs read OK as well as SMD diodes near LD75521S controller.
    Less jewellery, more gold into electrotech industry! Half of the computer problems is caused by bad contacts

    Exclusive caps, meters and more!
    Hardware Insights - power supply reviews and more!
  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
    • 30965
    • Albion

    #2
    Re: NEC LCD1970NX clicking for no apparent reason

    20v on the 12v? could be a bad opto-isolator and the psu is running away and then going into overvoltage-shutdown maybe.

    Comment

    • Behemot
      Badcaps Legend
      • Dec 2009
      • 4845
      • CZ

      #3
      Re: NEC LCD1970NX clicking for no apparent reason

      Yeah but than I wonder why 5 V does not go high too? It should, the power pumped into transformer should be distributed to all rails, no?

      I thought about optocoupler too, it is 817C IIRC, will have a look after another one.
      Less jewellery, more gold into electrotech industry! Half of the computer problems is caused by bad contacts

      Exclusive caps, meters and more!
      Hardware Insights - power supply reviews and more!

      Comment

      • stj
        Great Sage 齊天大聖
        • Dec 2009
        • 30965
        • Albion

        #4
        Re: NEC LCD1970NX clicking for no apparent reason

        is the scr near the opto a crowbar circuit?

        Comment

        • Behemot
          Badcaps Legend
          • Dec 2009
          • 4845
          • CZ

          #5
          Re: NEC LCD1970NX clicking for no apparent reason

          Did not encounter any. There are some tiny zeners though but I think with current neccessary for the feedback to think it is shorted they would already vaporize. No triacs, transils or anything similar.

          Supposedly the display had troubles turning it, it needed many tries untill it finally started working. That would indicate caps but all are japanese and measure OK.
          Less jewellery, more gold into electrotech industry! Half of the computer problems is caused by bad contacts

          Exclusive caps, meters and more!
          Hardware Insights - power supply reviews and more!

          Comment

          • stj
            Great Sage 齊天大聖
            • Dec 2009
            • 30965
            • Albion

            #6
            Re: NEC LCD1970NX clicking for no apparent reason

            startup cap needs good ma handling - esr and capacitance tests dont check that.
            i have seen cap testers that do test the ripple current, but they are desktop units that cost hundreds!

            Comment

            • Behemot
              Badcaps Legend
              • Dec 2009
              • 4845
              • CZ

              #7
              Re: NEC LCD1970NX clicking for no apparent reason

              Swapped the opto, still ticking.
              Less jewellery, more gold into electrotech industry! Half of the computer problems is caused by bad contacts

              Exclusive caps, meters and more!
              Hardware Insights - power supply reviews and more!

              Comment

              Related Topics

              Collapse

              • Nagy Daniel
                Lowest possible resistance on laptop motherboard rail - Guide Table request
                by Nagy Daniel
                Hi, I'm Daniel, and I'm new to the world of repairing motherboards.

                I would like to create a table, or more likely a guideline about the voltage rails and their possible resistance rail.

                I know that the motherboard design has a very big depend on the rail's resistance, but I would like to know what is the smallest value for a rail that can be acceptable. For example, I heard that some new gaming motherboards can have 0,5 Ohm resistance on the GPU rail, but on an older type, it could be a sign of a shorted GPU rail.

                So, I generated a table with AI so I can...
                03-04-2025, 08:24 AM
              • Victor Moreira Silva
                Acer Nitro 5 LA-L181p power LED turns on by 5 secs (Short on PCH rail?)
                by Victor Moreira Silva
                Hello everyone,

                I'm trying to repair my old Acer Nitro 5 (AN517-54-55T5). I've already bought a new laptop, so this is more of a learning project. For the experience, with no high expectations of success.

                Well, my decice specs are the following:

                Model: Acer Nitro 5 AN517-54-55T5
                CPU: Intel Core i5-11400H
                GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
                Motherboard: GH51G LA-L181P Rev:1c

                The symptom:
                When pressing the power button, the power LED lights up for about 5 seconds and then turns off. Initially, the issue was intermittent: sometimes...
                05-26-2025, 10:49 AM
              • lefetylorant
                Lenovo Thinkcentre tiny M90Q gen 1 - no 12V rail
                by lefetylorant
                Hello Everyone,

                Long story short, I got this unit for very cheap.
                I've started to experiment with it's BIOS, as I did before successfully with an M900. However my very bad quality SOIC clip broken while dumping of the biosof and it must have damaged something on the panel, because it does not turn on, and does exactly nothing when powered. The maximum voltage that could have affected something is the 3.3 or 5v from the IC clip, because the unit was not powered while the bios dumping was in progress.

                I've performed some measurements:
                - 20V rail perfectly...
                09-14-2023, 05:05 AM
              • bimole
                Weird behavior on 3.3V rail of a CORSAIR CX600
                by bimole
                Hi,

                A colleague gave me an apparently ill CORSAIR CX600.
                He told me that he heard a banging noise, and smelt the magic smoke.
                After tearing down the PSU, no burnt component, everything seems OK, but the PSU often refuses to stay ON. When shorting PS_ON to GND, the fan spins a bit a finally stops. No output voltages.

                I tried to treat some apparently bad solder joins and finally it seems to work OK... on the 12V and 5V rails!
                It's another story on the 3.3V rail...

                I have some devices to test deeply PSUs (scope, AC source, electronic load)...
                02-13-2025, 04:49 AM
              • B0r1s
                Samsung UE49KS7000SXXH - fast clicking sound in standby mode
                by B0r1s
                PSU - BN44-00878A

                Symptoms:

                The TV turned itself off, and I haven't been able to turn it back on. The standby voltage was unstable and lower than it should be.
                A weak clicking sound was coming from the transformer.

                Video with clicking sound:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAduhjNtqCA

                Progress:

                After the transformer, I measured four Schottky diodes. DM862C and DM864C diodes readings were 003 in both directions. After detaching them from the circuit and measuring them, DM864C was the shorted one. These Schottky diodes are SB550.I...
                01-17-2023, 04:58 PM
              • Loading...
              • No more items.
              Working...