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  • Nightwolf
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 52
    • USA

    #1

    Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

    I posted this in an old post and guess no one sees it any more, so posting a new thread.
    The monitor when first turned it on, the power lamp and the number 2 flashes on and off. Opened it up and unhooked the four cables going to the inverter, plugged it in and they didn't flash any more and I had all the voltages, 5 on the pins, 12 on the pins and 3.3 on pin 10. Connected the inverter plugs and they flash again. Monitor back light flashes on and off with the 2 lamps.Disconnected the cables again and how the 2 lamps are flashing. Reading across the caps in front of the inverters, I get between 5.7 and 5.8 M.
    Any direction from here?
  • Agent24
    I see dead caps
    • Oct 2007
    • 4913
    • New Zealand

    #2
    Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

    Can you post some photos of your boards and show where you are measuring these voltages?

    I don't know what you mean by "The number 2 flashes on and off" etc. Please explain or take a video?
    "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
    -David VanHorn

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    • Nightwolf
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2015
      • 52
      • USA

      #3
      Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

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ID:	1961696 Flashing number 2 light.
      I believe the number 2 is input 2. That and the power light both flash on and off.
      Last edited by Nightwolf; 03-14-2015, 03:51 PM.

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      • Agent24
        I see dead caps
        • Oct 2007
        • 4913
        • New Zealand

        #4
        Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

        When the lights are flashing, are the power rails steady or do they fluctuate?
        "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
        -David VanHorn

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        • Nightwolf
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          • Mar 2015
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          • USA

          #5
          Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

          The 5 and 12 are steady, but the 3.3 fluctuate.

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          • Agent24
            I see dead caps
            • Oct 2007
            • 4913
            • New Zealand

            #6
            Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

            How much is it changing by? Does it change in time with the lights flashing?

            Could be your 3.3v regulator is bad or there is a short on that rail. Can you locate the 3.3v regulator on the logic board?
            "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
            -David VanHorn

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            • Nightwolf
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              • Mar 2015
              • 52
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

              Yes it does with the lights turning on and off. Re-read my first post about the lights.

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              • Agent24
                I see dead caps
                • Oct 2007
                • 4913
                • New Zealand

                #8
                Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

                Originally posted by Nightwolf
                Yes it does with the lights turning on and off. Re-read my first post about the lights.
                Yes, but what I mean is, does the 3.3v rail change in voltage in time with the LEDs flashing?

                eg: If the LEDs flash once a second, does the 3.3v rail fluctuate once a second too?

                And can you measure how much it fluctuates by? Does it drop to 0v and go back to 3.3v again or what?
                "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                -David VanHorn

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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...2&d=1426365626
                  Is the on/off (Backlights ON/OFF command pin) pin fluctuating?
                  Never stop learning
                  Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                  http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

                    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...0&d=1426365626
                    "This is where I measured the 3.3 volts."
                    You are not checking the output of the 3.3V LDO regulator IC?
                    It looks like there are 3 LDO regulator ICs on the logic board.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • Nightwolf
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 52
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

                      Yes they are in time and from what I can see, the voltage goes up a little over 2 volts buts
                      it fast and the fluke isn't as fast.

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                      • Nightwolf
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 52
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

                        Yes it goes from the power board to to the logic board. Schematics trouble shooting said that was a good place to check it.

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                        • Nightwolf
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 52
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

                          Originally posted by budm
                          https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...2&d=1426365626
                          Is the on/off (Backlights ON/OFF command pin) pin fluctuating?
                          Yes it is also. If the room is dark, you can see the screen flash on and off.

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                          • Nightwolf
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2015
                            • 52
                            • USA

                            #14
                            Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

                            Readings on 3.3 volt regulators
                            U 608 output good.
                            U 610 output good.
                            U 612 pin 5 on and off 1.5 to 2.9 fluctuating. Input 3.3v-SW
                            Pin 1 0
                            Pin2 and 3 1.5 to 2.9 fluctuating
                            Pin 4 3.3v.
                            Pin 5 1.5 to 2.9 fluctuating.
                            Pin 6 3.3v.
                            Looks like 3.3v-SW goes back to R488 then to U402 pin AF9 GPIO_GO7_B<5>
                            Don't know what input to the display processor is controlling that output. Can't seem to find and info on the chip GM1501.

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                            • Agent24
                              I see dead caps
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 4913
                              • New Zealand

                              #15
                              Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

                              What is the part number on U612? Can you get a close up photo of it and the immediate area?
                              "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                              -David VanHorn

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                              • Nightwolf
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2015
                                • 52
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

                                Originally posted by Agent24
                                What is the part number on U612? Can you get a close up photo of it and the immediate area?
                                Here are close ups
                                Attached Files

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                                • Agent24
                                  I see dead caps
                                  • Oct 2007
                                  • 4913
                                  • New Zealand

                                  #17
                                  Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

                                  I don't see a voltage regulator there... Which one is U612?
                                  "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                                  -David VanHorn

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                                  • Nightwolf
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Mar 2015
                                    • 52
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

                                    Originally posted by Agent24
                                    I don't see a voltage regulator there... Which one is U612?
                                    U612 is to the right of U609
                                    Attached Files
                                    Last edited by Nightwolf; 03-15-2015, 08:34 PM.

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                                    • Nightwolf
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Mar 2015
                                      • 52
                                      • USA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

                                      Had to send it in to posts from the phone, mail is down on computer
                                      Attached Files
                                      Last edited by Nightwolf; 03-15-2015, 08:31 PM. Reason: 2 posts

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Dell 2005 FPW 2 and power flashing

                                        6-pin device U612 si3865, is the on/off pin fluctuating so the output will be fluctuating too.
                                        So need to find out why the control pin is going up and down.
                                        Do you have the link for the diagram or you can just upload it.
                                        Last edited by budm; 03-15-2015, 08:36 PM.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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