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  • mcflash
    Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 10
    • Germany

    #1

    Acer H243H Bbmid - replacing caps not enough

    Hello,

    I am from Germany, so I am sorry for my bad english.

    I have here a Acer H243H Bbmid.

    2 seconds to black. you can see the picture with a flashlight.
    I replaced the caps on the supply board. It still doesn't work.
    I left it for a few weeks. on a new test it worked with a whisteling tone.
    I opened it again and then there was the 2 seconds to black again with that whistling tone. I got near with my ear and could locate the tone on the "red marked" piece.
    before the monitor shuts off it is flickering as the whisteling tone is.
    what can I do next to find out what is wrong?
    Is it possible that the whisteling piece is broken or can it be another part which causes in the marked piece the failure?
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  • Rtech
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jul 2010
    • 1095

    #2
    Re: Acer H243H Bbmid - replacing caps not enough

    It could be the bottom set of backlights that is causing the problem.You need to measure the resistance of the two transformer secondaries, and compare them !!

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    • mcflash
      Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 10
      • Germany

      #3
      Re: Acer H243H Bbmid - replacing caps not enough

      I have red the tutorial, but I 'm not sure.

      Shall i measure like I marked in the photo?
      put GND on one pin (black) and measure the others (red)?
      how do i set my multi meter 200 ohm or 2k ohm.

      thank you
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      Last edited by mcflash; 07-01-2013, 11:44 AM.

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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Acer H243H Bbmid - replacing caps not enough

        @mc, the high voltage winding is on the two pins on the opposite side of your marking, your marking is for the primary side winding of the transformer.
        Never stop learning
        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

        Inverter testing using old CFL:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

        TV Factory reset codes listing:
        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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        • mcflash
          Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 10
          • Germany

          #5
          Re: Acer H243H Bbmid - replacing caps not enough

          okay,
          but how can I measure the transformer.
          Where put the GND? on the side with my marking? so I can measure from primary to secondary winding. or only secondary winding?
          this is what I did not understand properly.

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Acer H243H Bbmid - replacing caps not enough

            See picture. Just measure at the two pins of HV Winding which is on the secondary side as shown.
            Attached Files
            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • mcflash
              Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 10
              • Germany

              #7
              Re: Acer H243H Bbmid - replacing caps not enough

              Thanks for the help.

              I measured the HV winding on secondary side.

              transformer 1: 647 ohm

              transformer 2: 658 ohm

              transformer 1 is the one which made the noise.

              so they should be in the 3% tolerance if I understood it right in the guide thread.

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              • Rtech
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jul 2010
                • 1095

                #8
                Re: Acer H243H Bbmid - replacing caps not enough

                That looks good, suspect the backlight and/or its wiring

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                • mcflash
                  Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 10
                  • Germany

                  #9
                  Re: Acer H243H Bbmid - replacing caps not enough

                  hello
                  I disassembled the panel.

                  and the bottom pair looks like this. I think it is not good.

                  I have another samsung 19" monitor.

                  can I try the backlight from this one or must it be another 24" backlight? have the manufactures different voltages or are they all the same and the just get more current?
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                  Last edited by mcflash; 07-04-2013, 02:50 PM.

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                  • Rtech
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1095

                    #10
                    Re: Acer H243H Bbmid - replacing caps not enough

                    You can try the 19" one for Test ONLY,as if you try and fit it to use permanently, you will get a large shadow on the Screen.So its either buy new,or an old 24" from somewhere with a set of good lamps.

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                    • On-3
                      New Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 1
                      • st.lucia

                      #11
                      Re: Acer H243H Bbmid - replacing caps not enough

                      Originally posted by mcflash
                      hello
                      I disassembled the panel.

                      and the bottom pair looks like this. I think it is not good.

                      I have another samsung 19" monitor.

                      can I try the backlight from this one or must it be another 24" backlight? have the manufactures different voltages or are they all the same and the just get more current?
                      how difficult was it to remove the back light and did you find anywhere selling them? I'm having the exact same problem as you.

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                      • OBTA13
                        New Member
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 1
                        • United States

                        #12
                        Re: Acer H243H Bbmid - replacing caps not enough

                        Here's a link to my youtube showing the symptoms
                        I already opened up the power board and visually inspected the caps and none were bulging. Should I just replace the caps first or can this be a backlight issue itself?


                        https://youtu.be/wF0w2yKxIsc

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                        • hitec
                          New Member
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 4
                          • algreria

                          #13
                          Re: Acer H243H Bbmid - replacing caps not enough

                          check fluorescent lamp

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