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    Dell 1800FP No power

    This LCD seems to have a problem with the main power supply. When it is plugged in I get no power led, and no dc voltages at the connector to the logic board. I have tested the large cap by using an analog meter set to 600v AC and up, and placing the black probe to the '-' pin, and the red probe to the '+' pin and it reads about 340v. Then I tested the leads on the transformer by putting the black probe to ground and the red probe on each pin of the transformer, and every pin on the primary side shows 26.2v AC, and every pin on the secondary side shows 25.7v AC. I also get 26.2 v AC on all pins of Q902. I removed the transformer and tested it with the ring tester and when putting the probes on the primary side, the outside pins, I get all green lights (meaning very good). I get nothing on the secondary side. One other thing to note, the large cap discharges very slowly after unplugging it. Like several minutes or more.

    I have replaced all the caps except the very large one, and the two larger ones on the right side - I did not have any replacements on hand. But I tested those two with ESR meter and they were ok, but nearing the threshold.

    Any ideas about what might be wrong?

    Secondly, I am trying to get a handle on testing transformers with a ring tester. I did some reading and one place said that on the main transformers on the LCD, the step-down ones, that you can only test the primary side, and to follow the trail from the + side of the large transformer to one pin, and the trail from the transistor to the other pin to know where to put the leads of the tester. Then for the inverter or step up transformers it said you could only test the secondary side (the side toward the ccfls) and didn't say how to tell which pins to use. Is this correct? If so, do you assume the side you can't check is ok?

    One other item on the power supply, how come when I test the AC voltage at say the main fuse, or even at the + terminal on the plug it reads less than 120v? I haven't made any notes, but I think it it usually less than 35v.

    Thanks.
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    Re: Dell 1800FP No power

    Question about your volatage at the main fuse,Where is the ground lead of dvm hooked to?and dose it have a good connection?
    Al.
    Whatever I do, I consider it a success, if in the end I am breathing, seeing, feeling and hearing!

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      Re: Dell 1800FP No power

      You should test the large cap with your meter set to DC, NOT AC. You should get around 165VDC. Be careful, It's HIGH VOLTAGE!


      A common problem with the 1800FP was the failure of the PWM chip, ICE2AS01. The chip failed because of bad solder joints at the duo-diode paks and main transformer. IIRC, a quick check (with the monitor unplugged) was to check for a short between pins 6 and 7 (VCC and ground) of the chip. This test is not foolproof, but worth a try. You can do a search for ICE2AS01 on this site for more info.
      Last edited by jetadm123; 09-29-2010, 09:41 AM.

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        Re: Dell 1800FP No power

        Originally posted by alexanna View Post
        Question about your volatage at the main fuse,Where is the ground lead of dvm hooked to?and dose it have a good connection?
        Al.
        Ground is connected to the ground on the circuit board. I just checked and this one was about 50v AC at the fuse.
        Originally posted by jetadm123 View Post
        You should test the large cap with your meter set to DC, NOT AC. You should get around 165VDC. Be careful, It's HIGH VOLTAGE!
        Whups! I got confused with testing the inverter transformers going to the ccfls. I tried on DC and got about 165v DC.

        Originally posted by JETADM123 View Post
        A common problem with the 1800FP was the failure of the PWM chip, ICE2AS01. The chip failed because of bad solder joints at the duo-diode paks and main transformer. IIRC, a quick check (with the monitor unplugged) was to check for a short between pins 6 and 7 (VCC and ground) of the chip. This test is not foolproof, but worth a try. You can do a search for ICE2AS01 on this site for more info.
        Thanks for the link. I don't know why, but I don't get good results in my searches sometimes, and I completely missed the other threads for this monitor before placing my post. I checked and it was shorted between pins 6 & 7. I removed it and it was still shorted between the two pins. I guess I will order a replacement and give it a try.

        The other thread about this same problem is at https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...ghlight=1800fp

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          Re: Dell 1800FP No power

          Originally posted by jetadm123 View Post
          A common problem with the 1800FP was the failure of the PWM chip, ICE2AS01. The chip failed because of bad solder joints at the duo-diode paks and main transformer. IIRC, a quick check (with the monitor unplugged) was to check for a short between pins 6 and 7 (VCC and ground) of the chip. This test is not foolproof, but worth a try. You can do a search for ICE2AS01 on this site for more info.
          It tested bad as you said, and the replacement chip is working great. Thanks.

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