Premium-brand audio equipment with not-so-premium grade components

[japlytic]

Looking through the vents of a new Yamaha 'Natural Sound' AV receiver revealed Jamicon electrolytics (this shows the sound is not so natural after all!).
A new Sony AV receiver also had Jamicon units too.

Many of you would expect premium-grade components from premium-brand audio equipment. Not anymore!

JBL with Suscon units: https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showth...&highlight=jbl
In a Harmon Kardon tuner, it had cheap electrolytics.

Please feel free to discuss here premium-brand audio equipment (Sony, Yamaha, JBL, Marantz etc.) with not-so-premium components, particularly the electrolytics.

[mockingbird]

Re: Premium-brand audio equipment with not-so-premium grade components

JBL is high end?

What do those Denon receivers use inside?

[kikkoman]

Re: Premium-brand audio equipment with not-so-premium grade components

What do those Denon receivers use inside?

the recent ones I've seen so far use mainly Elna.

[370forlife]

Re: Premium-brand audio equipment with not-so-premium grade components

This is why I buy old sony and kenwood.

My old sony amp has all rubycon's and two big nichicons.

[mockingbird]

Re: Premium-brand audio equipment with not-so-premium grade components

the recent ones I've seen so far use mainly Elna.

They're charging like $1500 for the quad-hdmi receivers and they're putting Elna caps inside?

[willawake]

Re: Premium-brand audio equipment with not-so-premium grade components

i think its quite common. i remember this amp here had chssi in one photo i saw
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/atoll/200.html
goes for around 1500-1800 euro

i thought it was cool to open a recent pioneer dvd player and find rubycon

[weirdlookinguy]

Re: Premium-brand audio equipment with not-so-premium grade components

All new consumer grade audio equipment has so-so caps. My new(ish) harman/kardon receiver has all Koshin caps in it.

[linuxguru]

Re: Premium-brand audio equipment with not-so-premium grade components

They're charging like $1500 for the quad-hdmi receivers and they're putting Elna caps inside?

For high-end audio, there isn't much out there that's better than Elna Cerafine or Silmic caps, which have been used extensively (along with Panasonic FC/FK/FM) by Denon for a long time. I hope they continue using them and avoid cutting corners like the others - and yes, Yamaha has been over-rated a lot.

I have a 13-year old Denon DVD-2500 DVD player in perfect working condition, and there's no cap inside that needs to be upgraded - they were already the best, straight out of the factory.

[felix]

Re: Premium-brand audio equipment with not-so-premium grade components

Wondering what latest AV amps from Pioneer have inside....