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  • No1baggiesfan
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    #41
    Re: Another Yamaha

    Originally posted by R_J
    I hope it does fix it, I can't really see anything else that would cause the problem.
    I hope so too lol 👍🏼

    https://uk.rs-online.com/mobile/amp/...ators/6869748/
    Min order is 10 but free shipping, mouser wanted £5 to ship 1, crazy.

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    • No1baggiesfan
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      #42
      Re: Another Yamaha

      Installed new 7912, still no joy ��
      PS value still fluctuating but not as bad: 129-135/129
      Still getting ps prt 135 h error
      Still no standby led
      Last edited by No1baggiesfan; 02-13-2019, 08:01 AM.

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      • R_J
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        #43
        Re: Another Yamaha

        So what is the voltage on the 7912 now? If it is still low there must be something loading it down. or it could be the cap (C1088) on its output is bad.
        -12 volts supplies VIDEO (10) board, unplug CB383 and see if the -12v comes up.
        -12 also supplies one side of the relays on (page 141)
        The -12 also goes to the op amp ic's on (page 137) and elswhere
        Last edited by R_J; 02-13-2019, 10:48 AM.

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        • No1baggiesfan
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          #44
          Re: Another Yamaha

          Wife's taxi, lol, I will have a look in the next hour, ty R_J

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          • R_J
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            #45
            Re: Another Yamaha

            O.k.You DO need that -12volts, so it might be a pain to trace the fault , but it is starting to look like a bad op amp ic?
            After closer inspection that -12 goes to quite a few places

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            • No1baggiesfan
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              #46
              Re: Another Yamaha

              Weired, I now have 8-10v on the chassis with just the negative lead on it, getting 0v on the new 7912
              Last edited by No1baggiesfan; 02-13-2019, 12:30 PM.

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              • No1baggiesfan
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                #47
                Re: Another Yamaha

                Getting
                0.9v 0.6 and -0.02v off the new 7912

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                • R_J
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                  #48
                  Re: Another Yamaha

                  Thats strange? what are the voltages on the input. It was an all plastic 7912 correct?
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                  Last edited by R_J; 02-13-2019, 02:38 PM.

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                  • No1baggiesfan
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                    #49
                    Re: Another Yamaha

                    0.6v on input
                    0.9 across c1088
                    All plastic L7912cp

                    Old and new in picture
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                    Last edited by No1baggiesfan; 02-13-2019, 02:47 PM.

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                    • R_J
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                      #50
                      Re: Another Yamaha

                      If you only get .6v on the input, R1238 must have gone open. It could be due to excessive load on the -12 volt line.
                      Last edited by R_J; 02-13-2019, 02:52 PM.

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                      • No1baggiesfan
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                        #51
                        Re: Another Yamaha

                        R1238 reading 9.9 ohms
                        20.9v on both sides

                        Shouldn't it be 0.22ohm ?

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                        • R_J
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                          #52
                          Re: Another Yamaha

                          20.9v on both side of the resistor tells me you ripped the trace replacing the regulator.
                          R1238 is 10Ω Wher did you come up with .22Ω ????
                          Please look at the schematic the resistor connects DIRECTLY to the INPUT of the regulator.
                          If you have 20.9 volts on one side of a piece of wire and 0 on the other side, where would you look for the problem.
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                          Last edited by R_J; 02-13-2019, 03:43 PM.

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                          • No1baggiesfan
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                            #53
                            Re: Another Yamaha

                            Dry joint on regulator :/
                            I now have -12v -18v 0v on regulator

                            -18v and -19.7v on resistor
                            Last edited by No1baggiesfan; 02-13-2019, 03:55 PM.

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                            • R_J
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                              #54
                              Re: Another Yamaha

                              So you now have 7.8 volts on the ground terminal???? I have know idea what you are doing.

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                              • No1baggiesfan
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                                #55
                                Re: Another Yamaha

                                Autocorrect on iPhone, sorry

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                                • R_J
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                                  #56
                                  Re: Another Yamaha

                                  ok, so NOW you have -12 volts on its output. Does the amp now work?

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                                  • No1baggiesfan
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                                    #57
                                    Re: Another Yamaha

                                    I hadn't tried

                                    Ok, reset amp, powered up and it stayed on

                                    I guess now we reassemble it and hook up some speakers

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                                    • No1baggiesfan
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                                      #58
                                      Re: Another Yamaha

                                      Still no stand by led ?
                                      Ps now showing 80/129

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                                      • R_J
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                                        #59
                                        Re: Another Yamaha

                                        Ok, reset amp, powered up and it stayed on
                                        so the amp stays on but the diagnostic still shows an error
                                        p1-2
                                        Ps 80/129
                                        Did you do the S3 factory reset?
                                        Last edited by R_J; 02-13-2019, 05:01 PM.

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                                        • No1baggiesfan
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                                          #60
                                          Re: Another Yamaha

                                          It's not a 'protect' error, it's the reading from the hidden menu
                                          Amp is hooked up and working so far though

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