What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

**Khron** · 03-01-2016, 05:16 PM

Re: What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

Google is your friend

http://synthnl.blogspot.fi/2012/06/r...00-repair.html

**jocondor** · 03-01-2016, 05:30 PM

Re: What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

thanks once again Khron you are a good web researcher...the internal RME design it seems pretty similar to MOTU design, it uses some visible IC's but I can not see what op amps it uses ....go on with the research especially of late and last models ufx and 802 or superior

**Khron** · 03-01-2016, 05:34 PM

Re: What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

I'm still not quite sure just how relevant "what opamps are inside" is, for repairing / servicing this sort of units

If you're looking to upgrade opamps and such, that's a different story...

**Khron** · 03-01-2016, 05:57 PM

Re: What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

Did a bit more googling, and i came across this absolutely wonderful post, which i couldn't agree with more

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/7269605-post19.html (post #19)

It would seem RME use NJM2068's - https://forum.redfox.bz/threads/bit-...-7#post-200455
... Except that particular person has no clue how things actually work, and is just "parroting" datasheet specs, as well as imagining THD adds up numerically (which it most definitely does not).

More confirmation: http://www.crome.org/wpn/inside-the-fireface-800/

And some more good points: http://therecordingrevolution.com/20...one-told-me-2/

**stj** · 03-01-2016, 06:14 PM

Re: What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

all irelevent when the end customers are going to compress an mp3 with a 96k bitrate to stuff on a phone!!

**jocondor** · 03-02-2016, 03:06 AM

Re: What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

Thanks for the infos Khron I want to see for further informations by Others forumers which had to do with RME or similar gears

**jocondor** · 03-02-2016, 09:34 AM

Re: What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

after having seen what there is inside the RME I say that it's absolutely not convenient invest lots of money to buy these expansive interfaces cause they have exactly the same components as cheaper units...same op amps, same converters, similar caps ....sampe FPGA ....the only difference is the software and additional software functions implemented .....it should be interesting to take a look inside the top expansive interface by Prism Audio, Universal Audio Apollo (11), Apogee and so ON ....

**Khron** · 03-02-2016, 11:40 AM

Re: What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

http://www.harmonycentral.com/forum/...dio-i-30964997

PGA2500 mic preamps, and on the close-up of the DI board, there's an NJM2082(?) with a JFET input, and an NJM5532. Pretty safe to assume the rest of the opamps are also 5532's

http://gearautopsy.com/bla-finally-l...of-uas-apollo/ - and some NJM2068's as well, it seems.

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/043...g?v=1453744712

http://s1221.photobucket.com/user/Br...?sort=3&page=1

dCS 954 (A/D converter) - https://www.gearslutz.com/board/1820958-post70.html

Prism stuff (mostly older, though)

**rhomanski** · 03-02-2016, 02:18 PM

Re: What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

Originally posted by stj

all irelevent when the end customers are going to compress an mp3 with a 96k bitrate to stuff on a phone!!

I use an infinite bitrate.

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**jocondor** · 03-02-2016, 03:45 PM

Re: What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

Khron you really are a GOOOOD web researcher.....hey the Apogee Ensemble cost 3000 EUROS !!! In side just 200 $ of components perhaps less

**Khron** · 03-03-2016, 03:57 AM

Re: What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

Perhaps, but i'm not sure i wanna know just how many man-hours went into the development of the firmware (not so much the drivers)... That being said though, some of those DO indeed smell suspiciously much as overpriced-ness :P

And yeah, it takes a looooooooot of skill(?) to go to google, write the search terms, go to "Images", and just scroll down...

**jocondor** · 03-05-2016, 02:37 AM

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Khron go on with your research please ....let us know other links

**Khron** · 03-07-2016, 05:25 AM

Re: What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

Are you really THAT lazy to do a google image search?

I know "outsourcing" is fun and effortless, but i really don't care what's inside that overpriced stuff

My 896mk3's working fine (along with my two recapped 8Pre's), just used it on a drum recording session this weekend, and that's all i care about

**jocondor** · 03-08-2016, 11:22 AM

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sob.....Khronne you let me DOWN !!

**Khron** · 03-08-2016, 12:44 PM

Re: What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

Read the first question from my previous message (again)... Or actually, the entire first line.

What i've found so far, i've searched just because i was in a good mood, and i was a tiny bit curious myself.

And i'm really sorry, you can put all the sad faces you want, but the last time i checked, i did NOT owe you ANYTHING

**jocondor** · 03-09-2016, 04:07 PM

Re: What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

No plz do not say that....come on ....I want to meet you once I will be on your country ....

**montemcguire** · 03-30-2016, 09:22 PM

Re: What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

Originally posted by jocondor

after having seen what there is inside the RME I say that it's absolutely not convenient invest lots of money to buy these expansive interfaces cause they have exactly the same components as cheaper units...same op amps, same converters, similar caps ....sampe FPGA ....the only difference is the software and additional software functions implemented .....it should be interesting to take a look inside the top expansive interface by Prism Audio, Universal Audio Apollo (11), Apogee and so ON ....

I disagree. The circuit board itself can have a significant effect on the performance of an analog circuit, as can the power supply and bypassing. Maybe it doesn't matter if you care very little beyond basic function, but the distortion of a circuit and the performance details are not just the result of the parts used.

**diydidi** · 03-31-2016, 11:47 AM

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Not a fan of opamp rolling. If you want to better it, rather look at the power supply, filtering, heat management etc.

**quic307** · 03-19-2021, 06:17 AM

Re: What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

Hello friends,
Does anyone have schematic for RME fireface 800 ???

Thank you.

What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

What op amps in side the RME firefaces models?

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