Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

[Doodool]

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Having seen too many Samsungs die an early death I would stay away from them myself.
Maybe I am being too cautious but I really have seen far too many die to feel happy about recommending them.

I only recommend Samsungs higher end range TVs sometimes their mid range too and will avoid their lower end sets.
As far as I know their higher end models have great build quality with little failure rate.
Also I will always try to buy the TV from retailers that routinely offer free 5 year warranty.( like John Lewis or Richer Sounds).

[tom66]

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Having seen too many Samsungs die an early death I would stay away from them myself.
Maybe I am being too cautious but I really have seen far too many die to feel happy about recommending them.

[Doodool]

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Sony just stick crap panels in their TVs (usually Samsung & AUO) but they aren't too bad, I suppose.

I know I had a low end Sony LCD prior to buying my excellent Panasonic ST30 plasma and it was awful,but at least it wasn't vestel grade bad.

Sony's higher end LCD-LEDs are actually pretty awesome though.
Personally if I have to buy a TV now,I will try to hunt a discontinued Mid-high range Panasonic Plasma if I can,like VT series or GT or ST.
If not,higher end LEDs by Samsung 7 series or 6 series..or Higher End Sony's.

[Doodool]

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Very disappointed in Panasonic..my house is full if Panasonic products Plasma TV phone,Blurayplayer,shaver,canera,microwave,etc but I will hesitate buying their products from now on.specially TVs.
as far as I know this "fraud" act is mainly limited to Europe,their Japanese/ Asian models are not affected and are genuine.(also true about Toshiba,Sanyo,Sharp).

I'm auite happy with my 3 years old "genuine" Panasonic ST3 plasma,but when it fails,I will go for either high end Samsung ir maybe Sony.
I never liked LG products specually their TVs so they are out of option.

If you are living in Europe,Un-effected brands of TV appear to be:
Samsung
Sony
LG
(High End Models of) Panasonic (still a risk imo).

[tom66]

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What about Sony? Never heard of them using Vestel?

Sony just stick crap panels in their TVs (usually Samsung & AUO) but they aren't too bad, I suppose.

[Doodool]

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Yea, anything sub about 40" now is Vestel/UMC. Only exception being LG & Samsung. And we all know about Panasonics now... and I'm not a big fan of Samsung... So yeah... It's a real crap shoot... you can't buy any decent TV these days.

What about Sony? Never heard of them using Vestel?

[Alastair E]

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Unbelieveable! Panasonic selling VESTEL VOMIT as its own....

It really HAS got to the point--You cant buy a Good Quality TV set--without spending a fortune....
I have NO idea what I could recommend to anyone anymore, Used to recommend Panasonic.....

Oh Dear.............

picture displayed on a 7jp4?
or the deluxe model with a 21fjp22?
i have sets with those myself.

Not quite as old, but I do have a 1969 ITT CVC2 Hybrid Colour set, Fully hand-wired point-to-point chassis--There's Quality for ya! 46 years old, and Still working, and weighs a bloody ton!......
(I believe the CVC1-Dual-Standard and the CVC2 Single-Standard version of the same chassis were the only UK Colour sets to be fully point-to-point wired chassis)
Its got probably the most popular colour CRT Europe ever made, the A56-120X, 22" Delta Gun CRT. The tube in this set is a bit low, but have another good Mullard 'green-label' A56 from a mid seventies Bush A823 to fit it sometime....

For a bit of madness--I have a 1953/4 16" screen B/W Bakelite Bush TV62 wound up to 625 line, (Set was/is originally only a VHF band I/III 405 line set)--modified somewhat and fitted with an HDMI socket, to the original chassis Works well too!
(Next Vintage Project, Convert a 1974 Philips N1500 Video Recorder to HDMI.....)

[NJRoadfan]

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Never heard of VESTEL before, surprised to learn they are a large Turkish company that has been building TVs for years. Are any of these private label sets making their way to the USA/Canada? At least their chassis still have analog inputs on them. Many US market sets come with 2 HDMI, and one shared component/composite input these days! VGA is long gone from sets here sadly.

[ReeceyBurger123]

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UMC is a bit better than Vestel.

I agree that their power boards are better, but the main boards and firmware are complete shit and almost always corrupt.

[Agent24]

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picture displayed on a 7jp4?
or the deluxe model with a 21fjp22?
i have sets with those myself.

I think you win then - mine's not that old. Would love to have one of those though!

I've got a Philips KT3\KL9A based set. It actually has a socket for a UHF tuner but back then you didn't need one in New Zealand, so the idea was they'd sell them as upgrades later. Of course, everyone just bought a new TV instead by then.

[Rulycat]

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UMC is a bit better than Vestel.

[kc8adu]

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picture displayed on a 7jp4?
or the deluxe model with a 21fjp22?
i have sets with those myself.

They'd probably run screaming if they saw mine, then.
It's not just analog, it's RF input only, and even then you better be broadcasting on a VHF band!

[ReeceyBurger123]

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I agree im running an 8 year old pioneer kuro as my personal tv its rock solid, sounds and looks great better than any of the tvs I have ever repaired I wont get rid of it until something catastrophic happens like panel failure. You get what you pay for is the way I see things.

[vinceroger69]

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Too be honest thats the reason ive kept the panasonic plasma i repaired a year or so ago which is still working fine as a main tv in the lounge.Totally agree you cant tell some people no matter how much you advise them how i see it now its there money there loosing not mine.

[ReeceyBurger123]

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From my experience most people seem to not like you telling them every TV you see now is made like junk and to buy used. Not sure why. Maybe they think I'm not serious...

People will never listen and will always go for the cheapest option, a prime example of this is with a customer who I previously dealt with I advised them not to buy an led tv and spend a bit more and go with a plasma, they did the opposite and brought an led tv and 1 year later the bulbs failed and will cost too much to replace...

[tom66]

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From my experience most people seem to not like you telling them every TV you see now is made like junk and to buy used. Not sure why. Maybe they think I'm not serious...

[vinceroger69]

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Cheers guys for the info i have passed all this on too the brother inlaw if he takes my advice is a diffrent matter.

[ReeceyBurger123]

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All vestel sets will have stickers like this and all say the same things:

[tom66]

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Tom i suppose polaroid sets are vestle based too? just saw these in local asda store.

Yes, utter junk and TERRIBLE picture quality.

So, today, your choices of TV are:
Vestel (Toshiba)
Vestel (Sharp)
UMC (Technika/Blaupunkt)
Vestel (Panasonic, some)
TopVictorElectronics China (Bush/Alba/Technika/etc)
Samsung
LG
...



Just look at the input plate on the back of the TV. Sure fire way to tell if it's a Vestel or not; they all look like this now:

[ReeceyBurger123]

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Tom i suppose polaroid sets are vestle based too? just saw these in local asda store.

They are either vestel or umc junks.