Panasonic now selling VESTEL rubbish as their own

[Agent24]

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They'd probably run screaming if they saw mine, then.
It's not just analog, it's RF input only, and even then you better be broadcasting on a VHF band!

[rhomanski]

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I'm still using a 35" Sanyo that's at least 10 years old. The cable company desperately wants me to convert so they don't have to maintain the analog equipment. I won't give them the satisfaction, yet anyway, they are constantly raising the bill.

[Agent24]

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Who said anything about widescreen?

[stj]

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i'm surprised it works if your serious.
the last philips widescreen tv's had a great picture, but the narrow-neck tubes all suffered from the guns shorting out.
same problem with the thompson sets - same tube.

[Agent24]

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Guess I'll stick with my hilariously old Philips CRT then!

[stj]

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Is there anything decent left?

well japan got nuked, first physically and then financially.

so most tv's now are either Turkish or Chinese.

i suspect the chinese will start making better and slightly more expensive products soon.
i already see this with radio equipment.

[Agent24]

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What a stupid move - but ironically it's the consumer's own fault for wanting continually bigger and cheaper TVs...

Is there anything decent left?

[ben7]

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Plasma was pretty much niche after about 2009, shame it died out.

Yeah, I love plasma over regular LCD.

I'm glad we got our 32" panasonic LCD TV many years ago. It has rubycon and nichicon caps in it!
No vestel "3A diodes in parallel", no crappy capacitors.

[tom66]

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Vestel used to make plasmas for Hitachi. Well it used a Vestel main board and external chassis but the panel and PSU was Hitachi. And badged as Hitachi. Really odd, I guess Hitachi decided it was cheaper to have Vestel do the non-panel stuff.

Plasma was pretty much niche after about 2009, shame it died out, but ah well I got a Kuro so I don't really care...

[stj]

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why all the plasma talk? vestel will never make plasma unless it's a small ball for a fraction of a second in the back of the tv somewhere!

[ReeceyBurger123]

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I disagree. Samsung has problems with their bottom of the line models, but so did LG and Panasonic. High-end Samsung plasmas are reliable and have great picture quality. F8500/E8000/7000, etc. There's a reason I recommended them, until they stopped making them.

Most of the plasmas I get in are samsungs and most aren't even that old I personally dont like them but they do have a good picture when they are working.

[tom66]

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I disagree. Samsung has problems with their bottom of the line models, but so did LG and Panasonic. High-end Samsung plasmas are reliable and have great picture quality. F8500/E8000/7000, etc. There's a reason I recommended them, until they stopped making them.

[ReeceyBurger123]

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The really cheap Panny and Sammy plasmas should be avoided, but the same is true for their LCDs. One good thing is that plasmas can usually be repaired if faulty. LCDs, nowadays half the time it seems like the panel is bad.

And Panasonic sure have had problems on their models but this doesn't intrinsically make them bad.

All samsung plasmas should be avoided they dont last at all, pannys cheap ones are built well but some have issues...

[tom66]

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The really cheap Panny and Sammy plasmas should be avoided, but the same is true for their LCDs. One good thing is that plasmas can usually be repaired if faulty. LCDs, nowadays half the time it seems like the panel is bad.

And Panasonic sure have had problems on their models but this doesn't intrinsically make them bad.

[RJARRRPCGP]

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No, I never said anything like that. Panasonic plasmas have excellent reliability. Well, until they stopped making them, of course.

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showpo...2&postcount=20

[RJARRRPCGP]

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Never heard that before alot of pannys plasmas were flawed and failed prematurely but all of them top vestel for sure.

https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=36710

I swear that this is the tv industry's version of the RROD!!

[RJARRRPCGP]

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No, I never said anything like that. Panasonic plasmas have excellent reliability. Well, until they stopped making them, of course.

The real late model plasmas, especially post-2011. Even more likely when the model code is TCxxxxxxxxxx. IIRC.

[ReeceyBurger123]

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Didn't you or whoever say that Vestel actually is better than the cheap Panasonic plasmas??

Because of the plasma tv failure rate being sky high..

Never heard that before alot of pannys plasmas were flawed and failed prematurely but all of them top vestel for sure.

[tom66]

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Didn't you or whoever say that Vestel actually is better than the cheap Panasonic plasmas??

Because of the plasma tv failure rate being sky high..

No, I never said anything like that. Panasonic plasmas have excellent reliability. Well, until they stopped making them, of course.

Vestel sets really are utter garbage, there's very little in the way of redeeming factors, other than them using being fairly easy to fix.

personnally, i would recomend buying some cheap chinese tv with good features that the big bitches wont offer for copyright reasons.
such as MP3/4 playback and HD PVR.
if it lasts 5 years you did o.k. because it costs much less than a Samsung/LG or Vestel in disguise.

Or just get an external smart box, upgrade the box not the TV as required. Buy a good used 1080p TV (as 4K really doesn't matter until you get into 70"+) and use that with it. Such as a Kuro, or a VT60 plasma.

[ReeceyBurger123]

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this does create a problem though,

you also have Samsung's "suicide panels" that dont seem to last long,
and both Samsung and LG are spying on people and pissing them off with "smart-tv" firmware.

it does not leave customers with much to choose between!

personnally, i would recomend buying some cheap chinese tv with good features that the big bitches wont offer for copyright reasons.
such as MP3/4 playback and HD PVR.
if it lasts 5 years you did o.k. because it costs much less than a Samsung/LG or Vestel in disguise.

Sammy and lg will eventually use vestel in some of there tvs.