What is a good de-soldiering iron/tool?

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  • sam_sam_sam
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    Originally posted by stj
    plenty of controllers on ebay.
    although i may build this one!
    https://manolena.wordpress.com/2015/...tion-with-avr/
    The only controller that I find uses the “ T12 “ soldering iron tips

    I would like to make my own or buy a controller board for the Xytronic soldering iron tips that I could set the temperature and read the temperature at the same time where would I find something like this

    I have some “ T12 “ soldering iron tip but the controller just has a LED that flash’s when it at the temperature that is estimated but the handle to me feel it a little crap-e when holding it

    It is very similar to this one but mine is all yellow in color

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/HAKKO-FM-20...0AAOSwke9aEkcD
    Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 12-24-2017, 08:23 PM.

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  • eccerr0r
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    Well T12 is for soldering/simply melting solder, we're discussing desolder/removing solder!

    Not much data out there about my ancient rework station, but I do know it's a 24-volt transformer based with op amp/triac based temperature control, so yes, simply using the zhong-di and don't connect the thermal sensor as mine doesn't use it (it uses resistance of the heating element - old cheap ancient design.)

    Unfortunately that means that the thermal conductivity/mass of the tip is different so it might not work so well.

    At least it does have the pump in the base similar to the newer units.

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  • stj
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    fully aware of that.
    weller used a thermister,
    the zhong-di stuff uses a thermocouple.
    that's fine - i want a digital display with presets rather than a pot and flashing led anyway!

    plenty of controllers on ebay.
    although i may build this one!
    https://manolena.wordpress.com/2015/...tion-with-avr/

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  • sam_sam_sam
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    Not all temperature sensors on these type of soldering irons are the same so if it has a temperature display might not work right just be aware of this

    I know this because I have tried this and this did not work

    I have a Xytronic soldering station I really do not like the temperature controller on this unit
    I have a ZD-916 soldering station I really do not like the soldering iron on this unit

    So I want to use the soldering iron of Xytronic on the ZD-916 but the temperature sensor is not compatible with the ZD-916 temperature controller so it gives an error message
    Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 12-24-2017, 09:54 AM.

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  • stj
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    Re: What is a good de-soldiering iron/tool?

    Originally posted by eccerr0r
    Any comments about the 88-552A ZD-522 desolder gun?

    I have a really ancient 4331 I think, had to replace the heating element once. I figure that if it dies again, it's way way obsolete and getting parts is virtually impossible now, retrofitting one of these guns would be cheaper... alas can't use the tips old gun... probably have to swap connectors, but hopefully the heat control is compatible enough (4331 is very primitive, this gun might actually be better quality but my controller probably can't utilize it...)
    dont know what your talking about without links.

    that said, it sounds similar to what i'm prepping to do.
    i have a weller desoldering station with a dead iron,
    so i got a zhongdi iron and intend to hook them together.
    http://cpc.farnell.com/duratool/d007...5-7/dp/SD01394



    btw, the complete units are cheap
    http://cpc.farnell.com/duratool/d006...lug/dp/SD01384
    but that would be no challenge/fun!
    Last edited by stj; 12-24-2017, 05:24 AM.

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  • momaka
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    Re: What is a good de-soldiering iron/tool?

    Originally posted by eccerr0r
    Any comments about the 88-552A ZD-522 desolder gun?
    Meh.

    T12 irons/tips for the win. Nothing can beat their price/performance ratio. JBC has really good irons, stations, and desoldering equipment, but they are pricey. Like really $$. But good, though.

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  • eccerr0r
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    Any comments about the 88-552A ZD-522 desolder gun?

    I have a really ancient 4331 I think, had to replace the heating element once. I figure that if it dies again, it's way way obsolete and getting parts is virtually impossible now, retrofitting one of these guns would be cheaper... alas can't use the tips old gun... probably have to swap connectors, but hopefully the heat control is compatible enough (4331 is very primitive, this gun might actually be better quality but my controller probably can't utilize it...)

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  • stj
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    ??
    the ac cord unplugs - it's just a "kettle lead" like on a pc.

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  • sam_sam_sam
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    Re: What is a good de-soldiering iron/tool?

    Originally posted by stj
    ac mains cable
    I seen that but there will not be enough cord left to change it around
    and seeing how it has a grounded plug and it is grounded good inside the cabinet I do see a real problem with unless something goes wrong

    I will grant it is not the way it should be done
    Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 12-23-2017, 06:42 PM.

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  • stj
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    ac mains cable

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  • evilkitty
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    Originally posted by stj
    wait till you open it, their are 2 different psu's
    some have a switchmode and others have a transformer.
    i dont know which is newer.

    also, check the power cable with a meter - a few have been made with the wires crossed-over by mistake.
    the ac in or the dc out?

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  • sam_sam_sam
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    Re: What is a good de-soldiering iron/tool?

    Originally posted by evilkitty
    I am going to get a zd915 for Christmas, so those links would be useful
    I know you said you replaced the caps in it's PSU would you happen to have cap part numbers or specs? I will need to make sure the PSU is the same in this unit, but if they are that would be a time saver

    Here is the link to the spare parts for the ZD-915 or ZD-917

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-PLASTIC...53.m2749.l2649

    I am not home right now but when I have some time I will post here for you
    Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 12-23-2017, 03:22 PM.

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  • stj
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    Re: What is a good de-soldiering iron/tool?

    wait till you open it, their are 2 different psu's
    some have a switchmode and others have a transformer.
    i dont know which is newer.

    also, check the power cable with a meter - a few have been made with the wires crossed-over by mistake.

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  • evilkitty
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    Re: What is a good de-soldiering iron/tool?

    Originally posted by sam_sam_sam
    Buy extra tips, filters and at least one repair kit ( kit come with one spring , one tube , one front tube washer , one rear tube washer , one flat washer ) if you want or need the eBay link for the parts please ask)
    I am going to get a zd915 for Christmas, so those links would be useful
    I know you said you replaced the caps in it's PSU would you happen to have cap part numbers or specs? I will need to make sure the PSU is the same in this unit, but if they are that would be a time saver

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  • evilkitty
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    thanks

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  • stj
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    brick has 4 screws.
    i have the schematics,
    and photo's are on banggood.

    sticker on the underside says 100-240v 50/60Hz

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  • evilkitty
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    Re: What is a good de-soldiering iron/tool?

    Originally posted by stj
    Is the power adapter designed to accept both 220 and 110 mains, i really do not care what plug comes on it, changing or splicing the mains cable is no big deal to me, I assume the brick is not sealed like laptop bricks which require a vise/hammer/prybar to open

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  • sam_sam_sam
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    I use ZD915 all time when I run into trouble is when it is a multi layered board then I have to use a hot air controlled heat gun with very small nose tube to get the part out

    Which is a ZD-982 hot air controlled gun but what I do not like about this unit is that it does not have a cool down mode which about to fix on my unit and that is to put a switch in line with the optic sensor to turn off the heater so then it will have a cool down mode

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  • stj
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    Re: What is a good de-soldiering iron/tool?

    no.
    look a bit harder.

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/EU-P...786830474.html

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  • evilkitty
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    What is the voltage and amperage requirements for the gun (hoping i can use a ATX PSU), it would be nice to be able to use the tool to replace the caps in its own psu

    Originally posted by megaraider
    @evilkitty:
    Everyone is trying so hard to help you… but in the end it's up to you to make choices and move along.
    After all the good, cheap and proven suggestions from everyone on previous posts
    I do think it's time for you to get hands on the job, i.e., buy the tools and use them.
    and i do appreciate it, i like to make well informed decisions

    On the note of the Bakon 950D most of the ones i can find come with a T13 tip, are T12 also compatible?

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