2in1 rework station

[Stefan Payne]

Re: 2in1 rework station

interesting, they look similar to weller tips.

They don't just look similar.
They are.

I ordered a Weller tip to try it and it works/fits to my Iron

So thanks for the tip

[eccerr0r]

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Thanks, that advice helps. After years of working with through hole, trace treading is a well known problem. I was trying to use tweezers but it definitely comes with a potential for ripping traces off the board.

I guess this tool does have some explanation after all, unlike the three seashells... I just wished it wasn't called an "extractor" (I have DIP and PLCC extraction tools, whose use is very different from this) and more of a "nudger"...

Now that's also an awful name for a tool...

[clearchris]

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Light pressure on the extractor tool. Its meant to prevent you from tearing traces by reducing the pressure on the chip. Once the solder melts, the spring wire pops it off.

If you are having chips go airborne, loosen up your deathgrip. Light touch is all thats needed.

[eccerr0r]

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That's what they claim but the wires are very "springy" and once the solder lets go, head I lose, tails gravity and hot solder splattering everywhere wins.

Maybe I'm not using it right...

[stj]

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it's for lifting square packages by the corners without burning your fingers.

[eccerr0r]

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I ended up getting a 2-in-1 SMT rework + iron for the heck of it. Was able to remove SMT parts, though it took a while to melt the solder (never used one before, perhaps this is what to expect... The heat gun was faster but tends to blow parts away.)

The pencil solder iron that was the other half feels cheap. It has a slide on cover that holds the tip to the heating element. I think it still took a good minute or so to hit 200C.

I'll need to do a heat speed/regulation comparison of my old Ungar and this MiC thing...


I also still don't understand that black plastic handle thing with the two wires screwed onto it that comes with these rework stations, WTF is this for, and how do you use it? "IC extractor tool" ?

[stj]

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interesting, they look similar to weller tips.

[Stefan Payne]

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Oh man, why are they doing that?
Why don't they use one kind of system for all their units so that the irons would be interchangable?!

Anyway:
What do you think of those tips?
http://www.xytronic-usa.com/shop/category.aspx?catid=20

Forgot to buy the "right" replacement tips when I bought the station...

[stj]

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make sure they are compatable, not all xytronics irons use the same type of sensor.

[Stefan Payne]

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Well, I'm thinking about replacing the 307 standard iron on my LF-8800 with the 210ESD one.
Mainly because the standard one has so tiny tips with a small contact area.
The 210ESD looks a bit better...

[stj]

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the xytronics irons are far superior,

the irons on all the cheap bases look the same because they are all clones of a Hakko 900-series

[Stefan Payne]

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Why do all thos irons of those cheapish soldering stations look so much like on my Xytronics LF-8800???

[stj]

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I wonder if the durability/longetivity has also gone down along with the price... ?

well,
a fan in the handle is better than a pump in the base, and cheaper to make.

that said, the VERY cheap ones could do with better soldering and possibly better firmware in them.
see here.
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews...stom-firmware/

i have the older pump-in-base type.
they have a few problems.
1: if you kink the hose, the handle can overheat.
this can happen without realising it because the hose has wires in it so their is already not much room for the air to flow.

2: if the above happens, you can trash the handpiece or element.

3: they are anoying.
i dont want to use the word "loud", it's more of a penetrating hum that gets on your nerves in a quite place.

[jose6326]

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Might not be 36$ to europe, but searching for "air solder station" brings them up for me in the US.

To the OP: if you dont have a PS available, get the combo unit. Budgets are budgets... Hold on to your old iron just in case.

im not getting rid of my old iron i actually have 2 lol

[eccerr0r]

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I wonder if the durability/longetivity has also gone down along with the price... ?

[stj]

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yea, found them in EU now for 29!!
damn i cant believe how much these things are coming down in price!

[clearchris]

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got a link at that price?

i'm talking about the ones with a base - like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGdvCPwFfY

Might not be 36$ to europe, but searching for "air solder station" brings them up for me in the US.

To the OP: if you dont have a PS available, get the combo unit. Budgets are budgets... Hold on to your old iron just in case.

[eccerr0r]

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I use a "paint stripper" heat gun to blast parts off a SMD board, wonder if I should hack up a temperature controller for it, that would be an interesting project instead of buying a SMD station...

[jose6326]

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This one form the same seller with blower in the handle:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-2In1-862...3D181139781537

thanks budm

[budm]

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This one form the same seller with blower in the handle:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-2In1-862...3D181139781537