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    DoCreate portable spot welder damaged

    Hope someone can help me, this is the second time I have killed one of these and I wasn't able to fix the last one. This is a portable Farad capacitor-based welder: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004682391629.html it has worked very well for me, but the DC jack failed. I replaced the DC jack, but did not wait for the capacitors to discharge, and in the process accidentally shorted the green COM wire (that joins the middle of the capacitors) to the -12V terminal. After that there was a burning smell. Now the machine turns on and runs but the capacitors do not charge up.

    The only fault I could find was that F1 was blown, but bridging it did not fix the fault. Exactly the same fault as my previous one. The small 12V step-down module outputs +5.49V with no load, but when connected to the machine it drops to +5.21V, which is the voltage the capacitors are currently at. This is as far as I have gotten.

    Any ideas?
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    Dell E7450 | i5-5300U | 16GB DDR3 | 256GB SSD

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    With the capacitors disconnected and the step-down module disconnected, the output of the step-down module measures +5.49V, but with the capacitors disconnected and step-down module connected the output terminals drop to +0.89V... so something on the PCB is sinking current but I can't find anything heating up

    If I inject the +5.49V from a bench PSU the green LEDs light up, and something is pulling 0.7A, the two 4ohm resistors get extremely hot but I can't seem to trace what they are feeding
    Last edited by spleenharvester; 04-25-2025, 05:54 PM.
    Dell E7450 | i5-5300U | 16GB DDR3 | 256GB SSD

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      #3
      check all the diodes

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        #4
        If I have tested it correctly it looks like the phototransistor (EL817) is shorted, have ordered some replacements
        Dell E7450 | i5-5300U | 16GB DDR3 | 256GB SSD

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          #5
          Spent the day tracing the schematic and uploaded it to ChatGPT. We eventually figured out Q5 (SS8550) is faulty (B-C open circuit, C-E stuck on) and after removing it I'm no longer getting the 0.7A current draw through the two resistors (marked R99 and R100 on my schematic). A resistor on the rear (marked R98 on the schematic) was visibly burned but still appeared to be OK, though I will be replacing it anyway. Will keep you all updated
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            #6
            Ok there are several things you need to be aware about these battery tab welders first of all get your self board stand-off kit with different lengths and raise the buck converter so you have enough room to put heat sink on them this is a must do modifications that need to be done

            Second of all I would highly recommend that you change the buck converter to the version that has the voltage and current adjustment controls on it and set it to following settings and has the voltage and current meters on the module this makes things so much easier to do the following things that I mentioned below

            Voltage no higher than 5.0 volt this is extremely important because otherwise the two resistors will heat up very quickly and get very hot if this is not followed and could damage the capacitor controller board

            The current setting is not as sensitive to being set high but I caution you that if you go beyond 3 amp I would highly recommend that you put a heat sink on the switching ic chip because at 5 amp which is its maximum current capacity it will get very warm to almost be to hot

            The 12 volt power supply to me is a joke what would be a better option would be to use a 10 amp 5 volt switching power supply for the best results

            One final note if you adjust the voltage so that the green light just starts to light is fine just remember that if this will cause the resistors to get warm to the touch and you are wasting power by doing this and really dose not effect the battery tab welder at all

            I am referring to the two high current resistors for the voltage bleed resistors not the ones for the mosfets

            I have two of them that are very similar to one that you have and when I was testing this device I was very concerned about the the behavior of it that the two resistors were getting hot and that the voltage controller ic chip was not getting warm and it took a very long time to charge up and when it was finally up on charge the green light would be very bright and very hot and I thought that this could not be right and when I saw the voltage rating on the capacitors are 2.7 volts and they were pushing this maximum rating hey wait minute this not right the parameters are not set correctly I going to have to fix these issues

            The reason I recommend changing the buck converter to one that has the voltage and current meter it makes adjustments for each pot very easy to do and at a glance you know what the status of the capacitors are at and when the battery tabbing welder is ready to go

            One very important thing to remember is that when you are going to do any work on these devices make sure that the capacitors do not have any voltage on them the small display that is used to set the parameters of battery tab welder is not very big and the voltage meter responds very slowly to voltage increase or decrease that is another reason for changing the buck converter

            I have not finished the table for the capacitors and to hold the switching power supply and to be able to raise the capacitors unit up high enough to easily read the screen and keep everything together for simplicity and ease to move from one location to another location without breaking anything

            I hope this helps you with your battery tab welder and stop having these issues I still have to modify the second one that I have

            The one I bought was a little bit cheaper but not by much but I like how it comes in a metal enclosure I wish mine was that way but I am not sure about weather or not the setup has different issues than the one I have bought

            On the other battery tab welder I might just do away with the buck converter and just use a voltage and current adjustable controls switching power supply and set it for 6 to maybe 8 amps depending on weather or not the capacitors can handle this amount of current I will have to do some research and testing on this subject
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