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  • nearxos
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    • Jun 2014
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    • Cyprus

    #1

    LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

    Hello.

    I am looking to buy a rework station and i found this model LY R690

    http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-...782280616.html

    Does anybody have any experience with that model or any other model from Liyang?

    i am open to suggestion for any other station you think is good.

    Regards in advance
  • Th3_uN1Qu3
    Believe in
    • Jul 2010
    • 6031
    • Romania

    #2
    Re: LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

    Seems to be a copy of the Honton R390 with a touchscreen. I would get the Honton instead as you have the factory guarantee.
    Last edited by Th3_uN1Qu3; 06-12-2014, 07:14 AM.
    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
    Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
    A working TV? How boring!

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    • nearxos
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      • Jun 2014
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      #3
      Re: LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

      I was looking at Honton too. both R390 and R490 model.
      is there any significant difference on the R490?

      My main area of work will be game consoles and laptop reballing.

      one think i was wondering. can anybody modify a hot air station to replace the top heater with an ir?

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      • Th3_uN1Qu3
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        • Jul 2010
        • 6031
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        #4
        Re: LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

        R490 has more power and a bit larger work area, but R390 will do OK. I know someone who used a R390 and sold it only because he built his own station. He has many videos using it, see a PS3 gpu reballing here:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6XHBUjRi7Q

        I don't know if it is possible for the Honton, but other stations are configurable with either hot air or IR.
        Originally posted by PeteS in CA
        Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
        A working TV? How boring!

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        • nearxos
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          • Jun 2014
          • 41
          • Cyprus

          #5
          Re: LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

          thanks for your help.

          do you have any comments on the Fundar bga stations?

          i didnt found any info or comments anywhere. it seems that there are copys of Scotle

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          • Th3_uN1Qu3
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            • Jul 2010
            • 6031
            • Romania

            #6
            Re: LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

            Don't know anything about those. Scotle is same quality with ACHI - not so good. Replacement of stock top heaters is necessary as they do not heat evenly and will burn sensitive chips. That would be an extra hassle and more money.

            I use a hot air-based station myself. Actually nothing more than a regular hot air SMD rework station, plus a preheater, special BGA nozzles and some control circuitry. It works fine for my needs. The only limitation is that you cannot replace connectors or sockets with hot air as they will melt. But for chips hot air is actually better IMHO.
            Originally posted by PeteS in CA
            Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
            A working TV? How boring!

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            • Beowulf
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 175
              • USA

              #7
              Re: LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

              It's indeed a copy of this honton
              http://advancedreworks.com/bga-rewor...10v-BGA-Rework

              The R390 is outdated. The R-392 is the revised model.

              Here is the difference between the R390 and the R392.

              http://advancedreworks.com/blog/bga-...e-by-side.html

              Contact those people in there, they provide great support.

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              • nearxos
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                • Jun 2014
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                • Cyprus

                #8
                Re: LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

                So which one you recommend ?

                R392 or R490?

                any other models worth it?

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                • Beowulf
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 175
                  • USA

                  #9
                  Re: LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

                  They can both perform the same type of job and handle a wide variety of boards.
                  The R-490 is easier to operate because you only need to enter the setting for all the three zones on the integrated lcd display.
                  The R-392, same as the R390, has an annoying condition that the top and bottom fans keep running as long as the machine is powered on. Only way to turn them off is by pressing a switch that then heats up the IR plates all the time
                  Last edited by Beowulf; 06-13-2014, 11:47 AM.

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                  • xboxhaxorz
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 196

                    #10
                    Re: LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

                    it all depends on which chips you are working with, your experience level, quality of machine and budget
                    there are several stations

                    with air you have nozzles and air flow which can not be used to rework plastic parts such as sockets


                    this articles talks about air and ir
                    http://www.thebgareworkmachine.com/c...ework-machine/

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                    • xboxhaxorz
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 196

                      #11
                      Re: LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

                      Originally posted by Beowulf
                      They can both perform the same type of job and handle a wide variety of boards.
                      The R-490 is easier to operate because you only need to enter the setting for all the three zones on the integrated lcd display.
                      The R-392, same as the R390, has an annoying condition that the top and bottom fans keep running as long as the machine is powered on. Only way to turn them off is by pressing a switch that then heats up the IR plates all the time
                      I actually found the PID on the r392 to be easier than the screen on the r490, if it was a touch screen maybe that would be better

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                      • nearxos
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                        • Jun 2014
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                        Re: LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

                        Originally posted by xboxhaxorz
                        it all depends on which chips you are working with, your experience level, quality of machine and budget
                        there are several stations

                        with air you have nozzles and air flow which can not be used to rework plastic parts such as sockets


                        this articles talks about air and ir
                        http://www.thebgareworkmachine.com/c...ework-machine/
                        At first i was thinking of buying an IR station but then i choose to buy a Hot air. i know what the difference are between IR and Hot air.

                        what IR stations would you suggest.?
                        My Experience is close to none.
                        budget around $1k

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                        • nearxos
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                          #13
                          Re: LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

                          how about Scotle Ir360 Pro.? Worth it or not?

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                          • xboxhaxorz
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 196

                            #14
                            Re: LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

                            the ir360 is much higher than your current budget

                            which types of boards and chips do you want to rework

                            is budget a concern or quality

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                            • nearxos
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                              • Jun 2014
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                              #15
                              Re: LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

                              Originally posted by xboxhaxorz
                              the ir360 is much higher than your current budget

                              which types of boards and chips do you want to rework

                              is budget a concern or quality
                              I ended up ordering a Honton ht-392. Hope its a good choice.
                              Do you consider scotle ir360 pro a good machine?

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                              • xboxhaxorz
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
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                                #16
                                Re: LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

                                why would you ask about the ir360 if you ALREADY ordered the honton

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                                • nearxos
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                                  #17
                                  Re: LY R690 BGA Rework station. impressions?

                                  Originally posted by xboxhaxorz
                                  why would you ask about the ir360 if you ALREADY ordered the honton
                                  Just wanted to know u r opinion on scotle

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