I'm working on the stand-by portion of a HiSense/Sharp power supply #192020. I found a transistor blown apart to the point I can only read a couple numbers. Can anyone help me ID this?
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Sharp LC-55N620CU PSU 192020 help ID'ing a transistor
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Re: Sharp LC-55N620CU PSU 192020 help ID'ing a transistor
Originally posted by linksys1127 View PostI happen to have one of these on hand. GB1 is the marking. Here's the picture.
The placement of this and the other transistor in the circuit makes me wonder if the over voltage event originated on the main board?
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Re: Sharp LC-55N620CU PSU 192020 help ID'ing a transistor
https://www.shopjimmy.com/sharp-1920...led-board.htm#
It is on the cold side, that section looks to be something to do with driving those two Opto N881, 891.
Is it tested bad?
Are you not getting the 12V and 18V standby Voltages?Last edited by budm; 03-01-2019, 05:25 PM.Never stop learning
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Re: Sharp LC-55N620CU PSU 192020 help ID'ing a transistor
Originally posted by budm View PostThey call me......."threadkiller"
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Are you not getting the 12V and 18V standby Voltages?Never stop learning
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Inverter testing using old CFL:
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Re: Sharp LC-55N620CU PSU 192020 help ID'ing a transistor
Correct, no stand-by. There is voltage on the hot side tho. Only issue I saw on the hot side was up and down voltage on the rectifier diode, DC side.Last edited by DXseekerMO; 03-01-2019, 05:31 PM.They call me......."threadkiller"
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Originally posted by DXseekerMO View PostCorrect, no stand-by. There is voltage on the hot side tho. Only issue I saw on the hot side was up and down voltage on the rectifier diode, DC side.Never stop learning
Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956
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Re: Sharp LC-55N620CU PSU 192020 help ID'ing a transistor
Main cap voltage across is solid at 166V, but when I check directly across the DC side of the rectifier diode the voltage goes from 166v down to about 142V repeatedly.
Red probe on + side and black probe on - checked directly on the DC side of the rectifier diode pinsLast edited by DXseekerMO; 03-01-2019, 06:53 PM.They call me......."threadkiller"
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Re: Sharp LC-55N620CU PSU 192020 help ID'ing a transistor
Originally posted by DXseekerMO View PostMain cap voltage across is solid at 166V, but when I check directly across the DC side of the rectifier diode the voltage goes from 166v down to about 142V repeatedly.
Red probe on + side and black probe on - checked directly on the DC side of the rectifier diode pins
So 166V steady if is fine for running the standby power supply section.
Is R818 OK? It should be less than 1 Ohm.
P/N of the SMPS IC N834?
Did you remove that transistor off board and tested it? Is it shorted between E and C pins?Last edited by budm; 03-01-2019, 07:10 PM.Never stop learning
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Re: Sharp LC-55N620CU PSU 192020 help ID'ing a transistor
Originally posted by budm View PostThe DC Voltage at the +/- leg of the rectifer bridge is pulsing dc since there is no filter cap, the + of the rectifier is fed to the anode of diode VD804, the cathode is the connected to the + leg of the filter cap.
So 166V steady if is fine for running the standby power supply section.
Is R818 OK? It should be less than 1 Ohm.
P/N of the SMPS IC N834?
Did you remove that transistor off board and tested it? Is it shorted between E and C pins?
N834 is 1271A, believed to be NCP1271, datasheet attached
I was unable to conclusively find a datasheet for either of those transistors. I'm having a hard time turning a the numbers on them in to a part number so I an get the right sheet.
The 1P transistor is directly short on the top center and lower left pins
EDIT/ADD: I checked the components near N834 and all appear to check OK in-circuit. The IC itself is not shorted to ground and ground is not shorted to any other pinsAttached FilesLast edited by DXseekerMO; 03-01-2019, 07:44 PM.They call me......."threadkiller"
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Re: Sharp LC-55N620CU PSU 192020 help ID'ing a transistor
That GB1 is a TL431 reference ic
Using hot ground, check if you have VCC on N834 pin 6, Also check for aprox +160v on pin 8. Then check the base of V812, it should have +16 volts (VZ810 is a 16v zener)Last edited by R_J; 03-01-2019, 09:01 PM.
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RJ, great info.Last edited by budm; 03-01-2019, 08:51 PM.Never stop learning
Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956
Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999
Inverter testing using old CFL:
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl
Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/
TV Factory reset codes listing:
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809
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Re: Sharp LC-55N620CU PSU 192020 help ID'ing a transistor
Originally posted by R_J View PostThat GB1 is a TL431 reference ic
Using hot ground, check if you have VCC on N834 pin 6, Also check for aprox +160v on pin 8. Then check the base of V812, it should have +16 volts (VZ810 is a 16v zener)
PIN6 is 6.6v to 11.1v up and down
PIN8 checks just like across the rectifier diode, about 144v to 161v
Base of 812:
6.7 to 6.8v, up and down rhythmicallyThey call me......."threadkiller"
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Originally posted by R_J View PostCheck R801,R887,R803, Are you sure that was the base of V812 you checked? AC3 comes from the + of the bridge rectifier.
maybe check all 3 pins of V812
See if this helps
I am sure I checked the base of V812, verified with the datasheet. The other two pins of V812 check at 6.2v
R801 = 628K in one direction and about 852K in the other
R887 = 632K in one direction and about 852K in the other
R803 = 628K in one direction and about 750K in the other
EDIT/ADD: The schematic above shows R803 as 270K resistor. The one installed on my board has the numbers 684 on it, same as R801 & 807.
After that series of resistors the test point has 6.8v and is mostly stable. At the first resistor that comes directly from the + of the bridge rectifier the voltage is up and down from 141V to 165V.Last edited by DXseekerMO; 03-01-2019, 10:34 PM.They call me......."threadkiller"
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Re: Sharp LC-55N620CU PSU 192020 help ID'ing a transistor
Have you replaced N851 ? If it is still in circuit and shorted, it could be shutting down the power supply by turning on the optocpupler. If you don't have sot23-3 find a to-92 style and use it for now, most smps use them.
"PIN6 is 6.6v to 11.1v up and down" That tells me the ic's startup cell is working, the ic should pulse the fet's gate and the fet should drive the transformer, this will give you the +20 volts on C819, so check that R821 & R823 are ok.
Also check that you have +160 on the V807 FetLast edited by R_J; 03-01-2019, 10:56 PM.
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