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  • Spork Schivago
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    • Mar 2012
    • 4734
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    #1

    LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

    Hello,

    We have an internal LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner on our PC. It isn't recognized in Windows 10. It doesn't show up under Computer, no burning programs recognize the drive, no video players that we've tried (including VLC) recognize the drive. We can boot off Live Discs and we can see the drive in Linux and eject it. There's no Upper or Lower filters, the registry has the device key for EnumDevice set to 1 or whatever it is. It just does not work in Windows 10. It worked fine in Windows 7. Under Device Manager, it shows up under Other devices.

    If we double click the device in Device Manager and go to the Details Tab and then Device instance path, it shows:
    SCSI\DISK&VEN_&PROD_\4&2744D441&0&010000

    Notice how VEN and PROD ID's are blank. We called Microsoft who said it was an LG problem and that they no longer provide drivers for Blu-Ray players in 10. So we called LG, and the phone support person said they're aware of the problem and should have a fix by the end of October. Seeing how we can't even burn discs, we decided to contact them again and this is the response we got:

    Hi Kenneth,

    Thank you for contacting LG Home Entertainment Email Services!

    We are sorry for the incorrect information given to you by our department. That info is for LG monitors only.

    For optical disc drives, there is no available software driver for this unit because it is plug n' play device. Meaning, upon plugging the device to your computer, it should automatically load its native driver to detect external devices.

    If it's not doing that, please register the unit on the operating system manually or reload its native driver for detecting external device. If you don't know how to, please call Microsoft for assistance or click the link below for tutorial.

    Reference: <http://www.askvg.com/optical-drives-are-not-showing-in-my-computer/>


    I hope this information would be helpful in addressing your concern. Should you have any other questions, please feel free to contact us again via Email, Live Chat, or Phone by calling 1-800-243-0000.

    Thank you for choosing LG and have a wonderful day!

    Sincerely,

    Tom
    LG Customer Service
    Toll Free number: 1-800-243-0000
    LGEAI | Customer Interactive Center


    My question is simple. Was the tech support person that we talked too correct in saying that it's a problem and they're working on a fix or was Tom, the one who e-mailed me, correct in saying it's a plug-in-play device and should just work and essentially, there is no problems with these drives and they're not actually working on fixing anything?

    It's a bit frustrating. Thanks!
    -- Law of Expanding Memory: Applications Will Also Expand Until RAM Is Full
  • stj
    Great Sage 齊天大聖
    • Dec 2009
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    • Albion

    #2
    Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

    it's all down to m$
    this should be obvious by the fact that the bios, win7 and Linux run it.

    probably some shit to do with copywrite protection, not that they will admit it.
    just like they blocked RPC1 dvd drives in the past!


    direct answer - optical drives are plug-n-play.
    this drive is being blocked by win10
    Last edited by stj; 11-24-2015, 05:36 PM.

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    • ddscentral
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 151
      • Lithuania, EU

      #3
      Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

      Yet another reason to avoid Windows 10.

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      • Sparkey55
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        • Jan 2010
        • 1523
        • USA

        #4
        Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

        Originally posted by Spork Schivago
        Hello,

        We have an internal LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner on our PC. It isn't recognized in Windows 10. It doesn't show up under Computer, no burning programs recognize the drive, no video players that we've tried (including VLC) recognize the drive. We can boot off Live Discs and we can see the drive in Linux and eject it. There's no Upper or Lower filters, the registry has the device key for EnumDevice set to 1 or whatever it is. It just does not work in Windows 10. It worked fine in Windows 7. Under Device Manager, it shows up under Other devices.

        If we double click the device in Device Manager and go to the Details Tab and then Device instance path, it shows:
        SCSI\DISK&VEN_&PROD_\4&2744D441&0&010000

        Notice how VEN and PROD ID's are blank. We called Microsoft who said it was an LG problem and that they no longer provide drivers for Blu-Ray players in 10. So we called LG, and the phone support person said they're aware of the problem and should have a fix by the end of October. Seeing how we can't even burn discs, we decided to contact them again and this is the response we got:

        Hi Kenneth,

        Thank you for contacting LG Home Entertainment Email Services!

        We are sorry for the incorrect information given to you by our department. That info is for LG monitors only.

        For optical disc drives, there is no available software driver for this unit because it is plug n' play device. Meaning, upon plugging the device to your computer, it should automatically load its native driver to detect external devices.

        If it's not doing that, please register the unit on the operating system manually or reload its native driver for detecting external device. If you don't know how to, please call Microsoft for assistance or click the link below for tutorial.

        Reference: <http://www.askvg.com/optical-drives-are-not-showing-in-my-computer/>


        I hope this information would be helpful in addressing your concern. Should you have any other questions, please feel free to contact us again via Email, Live Chat, or Phone by calling 1-800-243-0000.

        Thank you for choosing LG and have a wonderful day!

        Sincerely,

        Tom
        LG Customer Service
        Toll Free number: 1-800-243-0000
        LGEAI | Customer Interactive Center


        My question is simple. Was the tech support person that we talked too correct in saying that it's a problem and they're working on a fix or was Tom, the one who e-mailed me, correct in saying it's a plug-in-play device and should just work and essentially, there is no problems with these drives and they're not actually working on fixing anything?

        It's a bit frustrating. Thanks!
        Another fine product brought to you by MicroShaft, Windows 10...NOT !!!

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        • fzabkar
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          • Mar 2009
          • 772
          • Australia

          #5
          Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

          Does Windows behave differently if there is a disc in the drive?

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          • Spork Schivago
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            • Mar 2012
            • 4734
            • United States of America

            #6
            Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

            Originally posted by stj
            it's all down to m$
            this should be obvious by the fact that the bios, win7 and Linux run it.

            probably some shit to do with copywrite protection, not that they will admit it.
            just like they blocked RPC1 dvd drives in the past!


            direct answer - optical drives are plug-n-play.
            this drive is being blocked by win10
            So it's not something with the firmware on the BT30N not being compatible with the Windows 10 OS, as the phone tech support person from LG originally suggested?
            -- Law of Expanding Memory: Applications Will Also Expand Until RAM Is Full

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            • Spork Schivago
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              • Mar 2012
              • 4734
              • United States of America

              #7
              Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

              Originally posted by fzabkar
              Does Windows behave differently if there is a disc in the drive?
              No. It's acting like there's no drive in the PC at all.
              -- Law of Expanding Memory: Applications Will Also Expand Until RAM Is Full

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              • fzabkar
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                • Mar 2009
                • 772
                • Australia

                #8
                Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

                Can you examine the relevant registry section in Win 7, save it to a REG file, and then import it into Win 10, with appropriate modifications?

                You could also examine and compare the Properties for the device in Device Manager.

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                • Spork Schivago
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                  • Mar 2012
                  • 4734
                  • United States of America

                  #9
                  Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

                  Originally posted by fzabkar
                  Can you examine the relevant registry section in Win 7, save it to a REG file, and then import it into Win 10, with appropriate modifications?

                  You could also examine and compare the Properties for the device in Device Manager.
                  I can try booting off a Windows 7 Live disc and seeing what it says. That's a great idea. I really think it's a firmware issue though because of the missing VEN & PROD IDs that are showing up in Device Manager. That's something that should be driver independent and it should be set by the actually firmware I believe. In Linux, they show up as VEN & DEV IDs but they actually show up. It's just in 10 where they're blank.


                  BT30N Device instance path:
                  SCSI\DISK&VEN_&PROD_\4&2744D441&0&010000

                  Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter Device instance path:
                  PCI\VEN_168C&DEV_002B&SUBSYS_10891A3B&REV_01\4&29A9473D&0&0020


                  See the VEN_&PROD_ for the BT30N but see how for the Wireless NIC, it shows
                  VEN_168C&DEV_002B. My understanding was these have always been set by the firmware. I was thinking for LG, the code for the firmware is just incompatible with the way Windows 10 sets it. What do you guys think?
                  -- Law of Expanding Memory: Applications Will Also Expand Until RAM Is Full

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                  • Spork Schivago
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                    • Mar 2012
                    • 4734
                    • United States of America

                    #10
                    Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

                    Even if it's not plug-n-play software and no drivers are installed, VEN and DEV IDs show up. This is how I identify what device is in the system when Device Manager only says something like VGA Controller. VEN = who makes it, DEV = what device they actually made. VEN_168C = Atheros Communications Inc. DEV_002B = AR9285.

                    I think our BT30N should say something like SCSI\DISK&VEN_122B&DEV_xxxx
                    or are Blu-Ray drives different than other devices? I honestly have to say I've never looked at device IDs for dvd / blu-ray drives because they've always just worked. Guess it's time to try a bootable 7 Live disc.
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                    • fzabkar
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                      • Mar 2009
                      • 772
                      • Australia

                      #11
                      Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

                      AIUI, the PID and VID are associated with the SATA controller, not the device. Perhaps your optical drive is on a different SATA controller to your HDD, in which case it may be that you need to install the driver for your second SATA controller.

                      Alternatively, you could move the optical drive to the same controller as your HDD. Still another workaround would be to reconfigure your SATA controller in BIOS for IDE compatibility or legacy mode. Then Windows will see it as a PATA drive.

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                      • Spork Schivago
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                        • Mar 2012
                        • 4734
                        • United States of America

                        #12
                        Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

                        Thanks for the response Fzabkar. It's a laptop. We only have access to two SATA ports. Once where the hard drive goes, one where the DVD / Blu-Ray burner goes. They're recognized and enabled in the BIOS. A little update. In Device Manager, if I show hidden devices, I see the drive under DVD/CD-ROMs. It's Device instance path there shows:

                        SCSI\CDROM&VEN_HL-DT-ST&PROD_BD-RE_BT30N\4&2744D441&0&010000


                        I will check the BIOS to see if I can reconfigure it for legacy mode.
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                        • Spork Schivago
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                          #13
                          Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

                          For Device Manager, under IDE ATA / ATAPI controllers, I see a:
                          Standard SATA AHCI Controller. Could Windows 10 be using generic drivers? Should it be using AMD drivers? It's got an ATI Mobility Radeon graphics card with an AMD CPU in it.
                          -- Law of Expanding Memory: Applications Will Also Expand Until RAM Is Full

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                          • Spork Schivago
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                            • Mar 2012
                            • 4734
                            • United States of America

                            #14
                            Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

                            I do now think, because of your help Fzabkar, it is the SATA AHCI drivers. I found this website, where people who have the generic drivers, seem to have the same problem:

                            https://community.amd.com/thread/186484
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                            • Spork Schivago
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                              • Mar 2012
                              • 4734
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                              #15
                              Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

                              You are the man Fzabkar! Turns out the AMD chipset drivers, in Windows 10, do not properly detect the SATA AHCI controllers. I went into Device Manager, double clicked it, went to Update driver, pointed it towards C:\AMD and made sure include sub-folders were listed, then I clicked search, it found the AMD SATA drivers, I had to reboot and the Blu-Ray drive works!

                              To think I was waiting since a little bit before October because of something a tech support guy said. Microsoft was wrong, LG was wrong. Now I just gotta find away to get the volume button on this Asus N61DA to work and find away to get the webcam picture from not being upside down and I'll be good! Thanks!
                              Last edited by Spork Schivago; 11-24-2015, 08:12 PM.
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                              • Spork Schivago
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                                • Mar 2012
                                • 4734
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                                #16
                                Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

                                Webcams fixed. Now just for the volume buttons.
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                                • Spork Schivago
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                                  • Mar 2012
                                  • 4734
                                  • United States of America

                                  #17
                                  Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

                                  Got the volume buttons fixed! Man, now I'm on a roll. Now all I have to do is download more RAM so I can install the internet and then this PC will be fixed!

                                  Hehehe, get it? Download more RAM to install the internet? A little bit of humor there.

                                  When I was in High School, I came up with a joke. It goes like this:

                                  What did the first modem say to the second modem? Give up?

                                  Crrrrshhhhhhh bing bing bing crsshhhhhh shhhhh crrrrrrr bing bing bing. Get it?
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                                  • stj
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                                    • Dec 2009
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                                    #18
                                    Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

                                    next time widows10 does a hardware-scan it will probably replace your driver with the latest m$ one!!!

                                    i'v seen windows do this with wifi and usb>serial drivers breaking the system in the process!!

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                                    • ddscentral
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Mar 2008
                                      • 151
                                      • Lithuania, EU

                                      #19
                                      Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

                                      Originally posted by stj
                                      next time widows10 does a hardware-scan it will probably replace your driver with the latest m$ one!!!

                                      i'v seen windows do this with wifi and usb>serial drivers breaking the system in the process!!
                                      Automatic Updates...

                                      Driver updates can (and should) be disabled via System control panel applet. Not sure if disabling actually works though.

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                                      • stj
                                        Great Sage 齊天大聖
                                        • Dec 2009
                                        • 31015
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                                        #20
                                        Re: LG BT30N Blu-Ray burner and Windows 10 not working.

                                        no, it ignores the setting

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