The 2025 Operating System Thread

[stj]

i have a macbook-pro from 2007 here,
installing a new pram battery, SSD and Linux in it for a friend.

strange things, i didnt realise till i needed them that it only has ONE FUCKING MOUSE BUTTON and no delete key - only backspace!!
nice lcd on them though.

[momaka]

My web-enabled machine has Windows 8.1 and I will need to "upgrade" to Windows 10 shortly to be able to run a current browser.

Perhaps I've missed it, but did Mozilla/Firefox announce they will be dropping support for Windows 7? (The ESR version that is, I know the regular version dropped support already.) FWIW, this is the only reason I have machines with Windows 7 right now. If the browser game becomes the same in Win7 as it is with XP, I'll probably revert back to XP fully again. Mypal (latest version based on Quantum engine) is actually pretty good on XP... and works fine on 7 too. My guess is that "alternative" browsers will be available for these two for a little while longer, especially Win7.

i have a macbook-pro from 2007 here
...
strange things, i didnt realise till i needed them that it only has ONE FUCKING MOUSE BUTTON

Perfect for browsing badcaps, now that the new forum software made everything right-click-unfriendly.

Also, it's not just the macbooks. Virtually just about any laptop from the last 10 years or so has been made with a single-button "clunck-pad". I absolutely refuse to use these things. Seems like ergonomics have been completely obliterated by designers' obsession to make everything thinner, smaller, and "neater"-looking.

[Topcat]

i have a macbook-pro from 2007 here,
installing a new pram battery, SSD and Linux in it for a friend.

strange things, i didnt realise till i needed them that it only has ONE FUCKING MOUSE BUTTON and no delete key - only backspace!!
nice lcd on them though.

2-finger tap does the same thing as the missing mouse button....but 100% on the DELETE key...

[em132]

Dual boot; XP (x86) / 7 (x64) -- Still on XP about 95% of the time.

If I have to be completely honest, I've been using my Windows 7 machines quite a bit more this year compared to my XP ones. Reason being: browser support.

https://win32subsystem.live/supermium/

And yes, MyPal does need to be updated more often... and be less buggy.

[Topcat]

Even Waterfox has ended support for Win7/8/8.1...

That said, it's hard to believe Win10 is 10 years old.......

[em132]

If I have to be completely honest, I've been using my Windows 7 machines quite a bit more this year compared to my XP ones. Reason being: browser support.

Another one:
Serpent/UXP for XP

It's an XP-compatible port of Basilisk, itself based on Pale Moon. Updated SUPER regularly.

[momaka]

https://win32subsystem.live/supermium/

Thank you for sharing this!!
I don't remember running into this browser when looking for alternatives for XP (or maybe I did, but probably saw Chrome-something-something and abandoned ship --> shows how much I DISLIKE Google stuff.) At one point just a few years ago, there were a lot of people making browsers for XP. Then in the last 1-2, that seems to have died down. Good to hear there is something else besides Mypal - not that I mind it, but indeed it could use more frequent updates, especially if it's going to be used for Youtube, which seems to change its scripts code almost every week just to fck with people. (Not that I care that much as I hardly use it anymore.)

Still on XP about 95% of the time.

Can't blame ya. It's an OS that's too good to die or be considered retro IMO.
I've been using it a little more frequently again, lately. Wih a 3GHz C2D and 2 GB of RAM, it's very snappy and still usable online, even with Mypal.

That said, it's hard to believe Win10 is 10 years old.......

Damn!
I knew it was close, but didn't know it already made it there. Wow!
Still, I don't really see why MS had to make/push Win11, as it's not like it's that much more different from 10. Probably another case of "keeping the wheel turning".

Even Waterfox has ended support for Win7/8/8.1...

I don't think Waterfox was ever really an old OS -friendly browser to begin with, so I'm not surprised.

[Topcat]

I don't think Waterfox was ever really an old OS -friendly browser to begin with, so I'm not surprised.

No, it wasn't.....but they hung in long after Mozilla cut it off.

[momaka]

No, it wasn't.....but they hung in long after Mozilla cut it off.

True... but Firefox still has ESR release for Win 7/8/8.1 (and what I'm posting from right now on one of my Win7 rigs.)

I guess it's impossible to go with just one browser these days. On the flip side, I have found some usefulness in having multiple different browsers on one machine.

[Dan81]

Generally Windows 10 1809 LTSC on my main PC, but my other machines run as follows:

- work laptop, Thinkpad T440p - Windows 11 Enterprise, in tandem with a recently "restored" HP dv6-3114sl (HD5470/i3 1st gen)
- main retro laptop - Latitude C810 - Windows XP Pro SP3 (you'd be surprised how snappy XP SP3 runs on a Tualatin w/ 512MB of RAM!)
- secondary retro - Latitude C610 - 2K SP4
- retro gaming - custom build w/ Athlon 700MHz SLOT A and recapped DFI AK70 - 98SE (most solid build I've had in a long time. This thing is tough as nails.)
- 2nd retro gaming - custom build w/ K6-2+ and Gigabyte 5AX r4.1 (not recapped yet, caps seem to have stood test of time tho!!!) - 98SE
- 3rd retro gaming - custom build w/ Celeron 300A@450 and ABIT BH6 - ME + Mandrake 10.1 dualboot
- 4th retro gaming - custom build w/ P3 650MHz and MSI MS-6168 - 98SE

[Nubstex]

Sorry for writing here, as i can't find if there is any pv here. TopCat, i have contacted thomas, who had manuals database some time ago. I want to revive it and he told me you have this database. What would you say? I think everyone would be happy