Aple PC?

[ivtec]

Hi guys;someone gave me an Aple I Mac G5, Power Mac 12.1,Power PC G5 (3.1)
Processor Speed 2.1GHZ
L2 cache (per CpU) 512KB
mEMO 512mb
Bus speed 700MHZ


HHD 6L250 MO Ata

233.8GB

My question is this worth it to buy a keyboard since it came with no keyboard?

is the mem same as Win, if so seems to be to low on mem

[goontron]

Re: Aple PC?

depends. if you're going to load linux or BSD on it its worth it, if not apple doesn't support it anymore.

[ivtec]

Re: Aple PC?

depends. if you're going to load linux or BSD on it its worth it, if not apple doesn't support it anymore.

Thanks: to install linux is the same way we do on the win system? also can memo be upgrade cause like Espn3 needs at least 1g memo,thanks

[Time2Retire]

Re: Aple PC?

You need to install a version of Linux made for a PowerPC CPU. You can find a link to Ubuntu's PowerPC version here:

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/

Direct link:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/1...op-powerpc.iso

As for ESPN3, that uses Flash. On Linux, Flash video relies mostly on the CPU, so that may be your limiting factor.

[Uranium-235]

Re: Aple PC?

I remember putting ubuntu 8 on a G4. Could barely run firefox, video was terrible. G5 looks a bit beefier but still, good luck

[goontron]

Re: Aple PC?

as for ESPN that uses Flash. On Linux, Flash video relies mostly on the CPU, so that may be your limiting factor.

"no flash for PPC" says adobe

I remember putting ubuntu 8 on a G4. Could barely run firefox, video was terrible. G5 looks a bit beefier but still, good luck

i have a G5 running BSD and it runs well. says it in my sig!

[Time2Retire]

Re: Aple PC?

"no flash for PPC" says adobe

They may be referring to the original OS that came installed on a PowerPC. Adobe and Apple have never gotten along.

[ivtec]

Re: Aple PC?

Thanks guys for your input;at this moment i'm kinda stuck, cause i only can log in as a guest ,i'm trying to get the admnistrator name and password from the person that gave me the Aple pc,i can't install anything cause it asks me the password,but i tried to download the Flash Player for Espn3 and it says the system doesn't support it anymore,also i put in any kind of DVD or CD and it just spits it out,so i don't know if it's a drivers problem or hardware fault!
i have linux op system on a USB stick but it seems one can't boot it up like you do in win or Linux Ops, can't get in bios set up to change the drive to boot
with the stick,in top of that if memo can't be upgraded at least to 1gb it's not worth it,as i said the memo is diferent from win ops?
at the moment i only can use it for internet,facebook,Utube and so on it runs smoothly for this.Anybody with the Knowledge of this system or owns one i would apreciate any thoughts and help.

[ivtec]

Re: Aple PC?

Me Again. will this Mem Ram fit on this aple pc?

http://www.amazon.com/iMac-G5-PowerM.../dp/B00B163J64

[goontron]

Re: Aple PC?

They may be referring to the original OS that came installed on a PowerPC. Adobe and Apple have never gotten along.

i wish but it goes for linux to.... i am the admin for about 7 celeron to P4 pc's running linux, 3 PPC macs and 2 intel macs, the intel based have flash along with the pc's and the PPC have Gnash.

[ratdude747]

Re: Aple PC?

They may be referring to the original OS that came installed on a PowerPC. Adobe and Apple have never gotten along.

No, it's the other way around. Adobe made flash for OSX PPC for a while... but for PPC lunux, no. Gnash and (if it still exists) lightspark are the only PPC linux flash plugins I know of...

[goontron]

Re: Aple PC?

No, it's the other way around. Adobe made flash for OSX PPC for a while... but for PPC lunux, no. Gnash and (if it still exists) lightspark are the only PPC linux flash plugins I know of...

lightspark is dead Gnash is still here. it even has a wintel port too...

[ratdude747]

Re: Aple PC?

lightspark is dead Gnash is still here. it even has a wintel port too...

I know gnash did... but this is a PPC thread and at least for my uses, I prefer name brand flash for my wintel builds.

[ivtec]

Re: Aple PC?

So you guys mean , even if i install linux i still not gonna be able to get flash player to run ESPN3?
and be better off ditching this apple pc?

[ratdude747]

Re: Aple PC?

So you guys mean , even if i install linux i still not gonna be able to get flash player to run ESPN3?
and be better off ditching this apple pc?

Id use it for something else... if an old version of flash won't work.

[momaka]

Re: Aple PC?

If you have old versions of Photoshop, you may be able to use those Macs for that. But other than that, I don't know what else they would be useful for.

There's a G4 listed here on Craigslist. If the advertisement is still there in a few days, I might snatch it and then just reuse/refit the case with standard PC hardware. If there is one thing I like on these old Apple computers, it's the case design.

[ratdude747]

Re: Aple PC?

If you have old versions of Photoshop, you may be able to use those Macs for that. But other than that, I don't know what else they would be useful for.

There's a G4 listed here on Craigslist. If the advertisement is still there in a few days, I might snatch it and then just reuse/refit the case with standard PC hardware. If there is one thing I like on these old Apple computers, it's the case design.

If you can, try to snare the half-clone cases made by Atech Flash. My Mianrig V2 is built in one... not even close to an exact clone, but a clone of the styling. If you were local, heck, I'd just give it to you (xeon guts and all) once my new build is done.

[shovenose]

Re: Aple PC?

The computer store I works at sells iMac G5 computers for like $300... people love them, except they break down fairly often (outside of the 90 day warranty unfortunately)...
Personally I think they're useless.

[ivtec]

Re: Aple PC?

You need to install a version of Linux made for a PowerPC CPU. You can find a link to Ubuntu's PowerPC version here:

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/

Direct link:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/1...op-powerpc.iso

As for ESPN3, that uses Flash. On Linux, Flash video relies mostly on the CPU, so that may be your limiting factor.

Hi TimeRetire i finally follow your advice and made an Iso of Ubuntu 12.04 on a cd and booted up wih it everything went great dowloaded the full Ubuntu install then asked me to reboot but it wont boot up and give me this on black black sreen and got stuck there don't go anyware,need help here or this aple will be landfill,thanks in advance.

Ubuntu 12.04


[23.636191] b43-ph0 error:Firmware file"b43-open/ucodes.fw" not found


[23.635732] b43.635-phy0 error:firmware file "b43/ucodes. fw" not found


[23.636656] b43-phy0 error: you must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/...devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version

[Time2Retire]

Re: Aple PC?

I retired from offering help on BCN, but I better help you since you followed something I recommended!

Those error messages are for your wireless. The Broadcom B43xx family of Linux drivers need firmware added to work. It can easily be added via the package manager. (but you need a wired internet connection)

Your real problem is the blank screen. This sounds like a video driver problem. Try to access a terminal screen by using a key combination of Ctrl+Alt+F1 through Ctl+Alt+F10. Usually the F2 or F7 combination is your "Desktop", which currently is blank.

If you can get a terminal prompt, you can login. Then we can look to see what went wrong.