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  • shovenose
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    • Aug 2010
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    #1

    OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

    I'm trying to overclock the Core 2 Dup E6600 in my "bedside PC"
    It's got 2GB DDR RAM and a 250GB HDD, a 300W Seasonic PSU, and a ECS motherboard with (I think) a G31 chipset...
    Problem is, while my cheapo ECS has BIOS settings for the frequency, it has NO VOLTAGE CONTROL!!!
    The stock is 266MHz, the multiplier is 9.
    9x266= ~2400MHz
    The question is: how high can I expect to get, as far as GHz? And how the heck do I test it (no Prime95 in Ubuntu lol).
  • c_hegge
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    #2
    Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

    Prime95 will run through wine in ubuntu. I've done it lots of times.

    I'd just bump the FSB up to 333 (2.97GHz) without changing the voltage and see if it likes it. If not, just forget about it. ECS boards are absoloute junk and don't overclock well.
    I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

    No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

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    • shovenose
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      #3
      Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

      Hey that board was like $30 new from Newegg :P so don't insult it... you know me I always buy cheap crap...

      Anyway I'll try your Wine idea :-)
      Last edited by shovenose; 10-18-2011, 08:47 PM.

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      • ratdude747
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        #4
        Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

        Originally posted by shovenose
        Hey that board was like $30 new from Newegg :P so don't insult it... you know me I always buy cheap crap...

        Anyway I'll try your Wine idea :-)
        cheap cheap=suck suck.

        you got what you paid for. perhaps less.
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        (Insert witty quote here)

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        • shovenose
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          #5
          Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

          So far I am at 300fsb it runs fine (haven't done a stress test yet tho)...

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          • Mad_Professor
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            • Feb 2011
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            #6
            Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

            older versions of the E6600 can be taken to 3.4ghz before voltage bump, 3.6 or higher with better cooling.

            Your motherboard will hold you back when you hit the fsb wall and does a no-boot scenario. Usually the chipset or memory will be the problem.

            Take it 3.2 and if it remains stable then 3.4 to 3.6 and if you're lucky go for 4.

            Also there should be a linux version of prim95 in the ubuntu repos or on mersenne site.
            Last edited by Mad_Professor; 10-19-2011, 05:59 AM.

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            • gerg
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              • Nov 2010
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              #7
              Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

              http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/

              I have done 3.5 out of a 1.8 before I will push any processor in a desktop it takes a while to hit that sweet spot what i do is clock it as far as i can and get it stable then i back it off one step. Thats just an old habit from overclocking durons the processors seemed to last longer and so would the boards especially doing voltage jumps.

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              • shovenose
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                #8
                Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

                It didn't boot at 333. But since it was booting at 300 I will try somewhere in between.

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                • kc8adu
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                  #9
                  Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

                  you hit the wall with the cheap board.look for something better.
                  is it oem or ecs?
                  oem ecs boards often have stripped bios.figure out what it really is and flash.
                  but you are still pushing a chain.

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                  • shovenose
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                    #10
                    Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

                    It's ECS. Got it from Newegg.com

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                    • c_hegge
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                      #11
                      Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

                      Extremely Cheap *you know what goes here*
                      I love putting bad caps and flat batteries in fire and watching them explode!!

                      No wonder it doesn't work! You installed the jumper wires backwards

                      Main PC: Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz, Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H-MVP, 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600, 240GB Intel 335 Series SSD, 750GB WD HDD, Sony Optiarc DVD RW, Palit nVidia GTX660 Ti, CoolerMaster N200 Case, Delta DPS-600MB 600W PSU, Hauppauge TV Tuner, Windows 7 Home Premium

                      Office PC: HP ProLiant ML150 G3, 2x Xeon E5335 2GHz, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB Intel 530 SSD, 2x 250GB HDD, 2x 450GB 15K SAS HDD in RAID 1, 1x 2TB HDD, nVidia 8400GS, Delta DPS-650BB 650W PSU, Windows 7 Pro

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                      • shovenose
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                        #12
                        Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

                        I know. But I bought something at the same time I bought the mobo:
                        http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817159087
                        Click on the Feedback tab - you'll want to shoot me (but please don't)
                        I didn't know any better at the time!

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                        • kaboom
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                          #13
                          Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

                          Originally posted by shovenose
                          I didn't know any better at the time!
                          That's OK- you did replace it before it fried any of your systems... right? I hope??

                          Oh 'Deer' me- some people make things too complicated. Why use a cheap POS to power everything when an "MOT" is a more 'direct' approach. The best part is you don't have to wait three months before it kills the system...

                          "Hi, Billy Mays here for (the Earth-shattering) Kaboom!"

                          Don't push Vcore too high- electromigration will 'slow-cook' your CPU.

                          -Paul
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                          "pokemon go... to hell!"

                          EOL it...
                          Originally posted by shango066
                          All style and no substance.
                          Originally posted by smashstuff30
                          guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
                          guilty of being cheap-made!

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                          • shovenose
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                            #14
                            Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?


                            The problem with my ECS crap is I CANT CHANGE THE FUCKING VCORE!
                            Sorry I'm not angry at you just me for buying this cheap piece of shit motherboard that belongs in an eMachines/Gateway where it can live its days with other crap components...

                            And yes I replaced the Coolmax after about 3 months...

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                            • Th3_uN1Qu3
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                              #15
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                              http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=98439&page=1

                              Enjoy. Don't have a silver conductive pen? Just use a regular pencil.
                              Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                              Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                              A working TV? How boring!

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                              • kaboom
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                                #16
                                Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

                                Originally posted by shovenose
                                CANT CHANGE THE FUCKING VCORE!
                                If you re-flash the BIOS and end up being able to change it, I'd at least put a voltmeter across Vcore and verify it.

                                Ya don't want to have 1.5V when you think you've got 1.35...

                                Originally posted by shovenose
                                Sorry I'm not angry at you just me for buying this cheap piece of shit motherboard
                                I understand completely after my ASROCK adventure. Believe me, I know where you're coming from! The only things that surpass it are the 'Adam computer' and the "Rednecked computer.' I should post those stories in their own threads.

                                Originally posted by shovenose
                                belongs in an eMachines/Gateway where it can live its days with other crap components...
                                Naw. How 'bout in a nasty, POS, fugly HP/Compaq?

                                -Paul
                                "pokemon go... to hell!"

                                EOL it...
                                Originally posted by shango066
                                All style and no substance.
                                Originally posted by smashstuff30
                                guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
                                guilty of being cheap-made!

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                                • kaboom
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                                  #17
                                  Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

                                  Originally posted by Th3_uN1Qu3
                                  Enjoy. Don't have a silver conductive pen? Just use a regular pencil.
                                  That's not what I expect from you! Where's the guide to change the feedback resistors in the VRM to get any voltage we want?

                                  Funny thing is, it would be possible if it wasn't all SMT...

                                  -Paul
                                  "pokemon go... to hell!"

                                  EOL it...
                                  Originally posted by shango066
                                  All style and no substance.
                                  Originally posted by smashstuff30
                                  guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
                                  guilty of being cheap-made!

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                                  • shovenose
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                                    #18
                                    Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

                                    Originally posted by kaboom

                                    Naw. How 'bout in a nasty, POS, fugly HP/Compaq?

                                    -Paul
                                    Both my HP and my Compaq with ASUS mobos and NVIDIA chipsets with TINY heatsinks still work fine :P

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                                    • shovenose
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                                      #19
                                      Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

                                      Originally posted by kaboom
                                      If you re-flash the BIOS and end up being able to change it, I'd at least put a voltmeter across Vcore and verify it.

                                      Ya don't want to have 1.5V when you think you've got 1.35...

                                      -Paul
                                      How do I measrue that?

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                                      • kaboom
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                                        #20
                                        Re: OC'ing Core 2 Duo/Should I?/Testing?

                                        If you're 'missing' any caps on the VRM output, you can 'cheat' and measure right there. Otherwise, you'll have to trace it out. Sometimes, there's a surface mount ceramic cap for Vcore, on the top of the board, that's accessible. You do not want to short the VRM, with 50-60+ plus amps available!

                                        -Paul
                                        Attached Files
                                        "pokemon go... to hell!"

                                        EOL it...
                                        Originally posted by shango066
                                        All style and no substance.
                                        Originally posted by smashstuff30
                                        guilty,guilty,guilty,guilty!
                                        guilty of being cheap-made!

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