Panasonic Toughbook slow, messed up, etc.

[Shocker]

Re: Panasonic Toughbook slow, messed up, etc.

You can either spend 5 minutes installation + 5 seconds additional plstartup time or 20 mins/month removing virueses. Especially since it is free, there is no reason to nit use anti virus software

The difference in performance that Resident Shield makes is surprisingly noticeable. And I think you'd have to be rather determined to get a virus every month.

[kc8adu]

Re: Panasonic Toughbook slow, messed up, etc.

just posted my cf29 on cl.
so if anyone else needs a chic magnet to carry in highschool...

[kc8adu]

Re: Panasonic Toughbook slow, messed up, etc.

[joke]yeah, especially if they are inflatable. just do yourself a favor and avoid the welded pvc ones.

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[ratdude747]

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Yeah that'll get you all the ladies.

[joke]yeah, especially if they are inflatable. just do yourself a favor and avoid the welded pvc ones.

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[weirdlookinguy]

Re: Panasonic Toughbook slow, messed up, etc.

I can't wait to show up at school with this beast :P

Yeah that'll get you all the ladies.

[shovenose]

Re: Panasonic Toughbook slow, messed up, etc.

Well, I ordered a $42 battery off eBay. It will come sometime in October.
I hope it all works well...I can't wait to show up at school with this beast :P

[joshnz]

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I use Microsoft's security solution on all my pc's.

[momaka]

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@momaka - Shame on you for discouraging Anti-Virus

Well I'm not discouraging it 100% - in fact not even close. There are cases where it is helpful to me - for example, when I get a really infected PC, usually I first let an anti-virus of some sort clean up the majority of the viruses, then I check everything myself.

My gripe with AV software is that it's just too intrusive - sometimes even more than viruses themselves. Your subscription is about to expire! Renew NOW! or Try our new security suit and become a millionaire by saving so much money! - yeah right.

And I would have to agree with WLG that I too have yet to see an AV that doesn't noticeably drag down a computer. It's not just that either... try running your laptop on batteries and then doing lots of folder-browsing or writing lots of files with and without AV. Please tell me if you don't notice a difference.

For new laptops, I can squeeze out at least 20 minutes of extra battery life. And for this one Acer netbook I was setting up for someone, the AV - McCrapAFee - made such a difference that the run time on batteries was cut in half from the advertised 8 hours. Not only that, but the mouse would stutter every once in a while due to McCrapAFee wasting CPU cycles. That thing is a waste of memory too - 200 to 400 MB depending on... I have no idea really. Its memory usage is all over the place. We have some corporate edition of that at work, and it's doing the same thing as well - every day. It really is crap.

I've tried other AVs as well, but they all hog at least one or more resources pretty badly. AVG takes forever to open folders with lots of EXE files, as does Avast!
And that's pretty much why I don't like to use AV software in the long run.

Now software like Malwarebytes Anti-Malware I find very useful. In fact, I have it on every computer I own or set up. Same with Spyware Blaster.

Anyways, sorry for completely derailing this thread.

[NxB]

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Any AV will slow your computer down if you let it do real time scanning. Just scan suspicious files. Malwarebytes is great at this and you can just disable the service.

The best protection is a real time firewall that asks if you want a program's request to go through or not. You can also audit running processes and see what they are. Then when you see a new one that looks fishy....

[shovenose]

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Even Linux can get infected...

Anyway, somewhat back on topic, I'm about to order this:
http://www.amazon.com/6600mAh-Batter...7081926&sr=8-3
is that a good choice?

[c_hegge]

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... I've yet to see an AV that doesn't noticeable drag down a computer....

The last 3 versions of norton have made absoloutely NO noticable difference whatsoever to any of my PCs, not even my old Socket A PC which was retired last year after the board died.

as for the common sense arguement, i do not see antivirus as a replacement for commonsense nor do i see common sense as a replacement for antivirus. imho, they go hand in hand...

QFT

I'd say the best virus protection is to use linux.

[shovenose]

Re: Panasonic Toughbook slow, messed up, etc.

You can either spend 5 minutes installation + 5 seconds additional plstartup time or 20 mins/month removing virueses. Especially since it is free, there is no reason to nit use anti virus software

[ratdude747]

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Except that in a car you might, you know, die. If you get a virus it'll take 20 minutes to have your computer running top notch again.

if you are lucky... if you get a nasty one then you have a reformat in your near future.

[weirdlookinguy]

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I've never gotten more than annoying adware or those fake antivirus thingies. And both times it happened it was off a sketchy porn site. I've ran Windows 98% of my time in the computer world.

I had a few infections while I was running an AV too way back in the day.

[weirdlookinguy]

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Except that in a car you might, you know, die. If you get a virus it'll take 20 minutes to have your computer running top notch again.

[ratdude747]

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Waste of CPU cycles.

you could also say putting a roll bar on a convertible is a wate of weight and aero drag. same with seatbelts and air bags. after all, if you are a good driver and use common sense, you will NEVER be in a wreck! (sarcasm).

if you pick the right AV the cpu % used will be so trivial that it seems pointless to bareback the internet.

I know first hand that common sense alone isn't a safe bet... I have had to reformat drives over stuff gotten while going to "safe places"... gmail, facebook, badcaps, and youtube was all.

the bottom line is that if you bareback, be aware that you may get a nasty gift in return... bareback at your own risk!

[weirdlookinguy]

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Waste of CPU cycles.

[ratdude747]

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I'm using microsoft security essentials. So far it works out pretty darn good, especially for the price.

i use avast, and it is very, very good, especially for the price! it also is very lightweight...

as for the common sense arguement, i do not see antivirus as a replacement for commonsense nor do i see common sense as a replacement for antivirus. imho, they go hand in hand...

[Evil Lurker]

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I'm using microsoft security essentials. So far it works out pretty darn good, especially for the price.

[weirdlookinguy]

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All AV software is useless garbage. Norton, Comodo, AVG, Kaspersky, Avira, McAffee bitch please throw that resource hogging shit in the trash where it belongs. I DGAF how resource light anything is supposed to be, I've yet to see an AV that doesn't noticeable drag down a computer. I've gotten three or four viruses in all my years on computing without an AV. Each instance took maybe 20 minutes to clean out. Please read this informative article for more information on antivirus software: http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...pid%20Bullshit