Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

[mockingbird]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

In fact there is a cluster of OST below right of the circle in your photo.
Asus LOVES OST.

The OST didn't concern me on this board. They're all very low value. And Asus isn't as guilty of using OST as much as Gigabyte is for their older boards. I've never seen an Asus board that used high value OSTs in parallel like I've seen with Gigabyte (And sometimes even for the VRM), yet even Asrock motherboards at least have KZG for the VRM.

I'd much sooner trust Asus than I would Gigabyte, but my personal preference is MSI because I've always liked their Bios'.

[kc8adu]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

a moron indeed recapped it.nothing junfu makes is suitable for mobo use.hell they are not good for much of anything!

Ps I found jun fu caps on an intel brandwd mobo. Pcbonez opinion is that some moron recapped it (i got it used). But cmon they may have probs to!

[PCBONEZ]

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My mistake.

Circling the cap was a useless evolution.
I specified on an Intel board.
That's an Asus board.

Asus has always mixed in crap caps.
Not unusual at all.
In fact there is a cluster of OST below right of the circle in your photo.
Asus LOVES OST.
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[mockingbird]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

That is not what he 'said' and based on a previous discussion that isn't what he meant either.
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If he's surprised to see a non Jap cap on an Asus board for an Intel CPU that would be even worse.
OST ain't Japanese and Asus LOVES OST.
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That's precisely what I said, that ASUS Intel ICH10/GMA4xxx motherboards had off-brand capacitors. You'll have to show me where I claimed that Intel was using off-brand caps.

And I am surprised because these Intel boards aint cheap. Asus is charging about the same as equivalent AMD offerings, and the AMD boards are full polys, so yes I'm very surprised to see off-brand caps on $100 Asus (in bold, lest you should become confused) Intel boards. And these were really off-brand. I mean like a brand no one here has probably ever heard of. I've since sold it, but if you want to investigate, the model I believe was P5G43T-M Pro:


I've circled the capacitor brand in question (Lest you have a difficult time locating it). The model that Newegg used was generous with the KZE or KZG, the one I bought had the same polys and a few panasonic electrolytics but was littered with the same off-brand garbage circled in red.

And older Asus Athlon motherboards had buggy Bios but had a very good build quality. Bumblebees, Oscons, and Rubycons. At least this was the case for the A7V.

[BigTroll]

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Yeah i had a Aopen board, i really miss their products i think it was a AX4S SG UN or something it was a full atx 865G chipset, i put a socket 478 3.4GHZ pentium 4 EXTREME EDITION on it, ran great and overclocked to a max of 3.83ghz with a zalman 9500 but i had to back it down to 3.73 for stability load temps never over 55c. unfortunalty i didn't know much about power supplys then and my case had a apevia 420 watt that came with the case and while gaming one day it popped, luckily it didn't ruin nothing. I also have a Aopen DVD Burner in my current desktop.

[Quasar]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

Yeah. The email hit before you changed it. Had a giggle then came here to comment. Thank you for the self-edit.

Have 2 beers.

Q

[PCBONEZ]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

EDIT: pretty hateful comment removed.... sorry guys, it's been one of those days for me. But shovenose what's with all the sloppy "txt-speak" typing? It's annoying.

Kick you shoes off and have a beer.

[PCBONEZ]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

Ps I found jun fu caps on an intel brandwd mobo. Pcbonez opinion is that some moron recapped it (i got it used). But cmon they may have probs to!

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As I recall you didn't even know a model number so I have doubts you were even looking at an Intel made board.
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Yes, Intel has problems just like everyone else but they don't use non-jap caps.
If they ever did it was back in the early 90's but I doubt it even then.
If you are going to slam them for something then at least get your facts right.
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[PCBONEZ]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

Recapping I can do. Understanding all this new stuff leaves me behind the eight ball. But, it's much clearer after these replies. I feel less intimidated and not so overwhelmed.

80386 anyone?

Is Aopen an option too?

Q

If you want a MODT board and AOpen might be worth looking for.
I've handled a few of them [i855, i915 & i945] and AOpen was using top of the line caps [Rubycon, Sanyo, Panasonic, or Polymer] in critical areas but CH/TW caps in the low stress spots. It was obvious they paid attention to what the cap's job was before they picked what to use in every spot. Build quality was also very good.

MODT is Mobile on DeskTop. A laptop CPU on a desktop board.
Low power use and low heat. Can be made to be very quite.
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[weirdlookinguy]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

Ps I found jun fu caps on an intel brandwd mobo. Pcbonez opinion is that some moron recapped it (i got it used). But cmon they may have probs to!

EDIT: pretty hateful comment removed.... sorry guys, it's been one of those days for me. But shovenose what's with all the sloppy "txt-speak" typing? It's annoying.

[shovenose]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

Ps I found jun fu caps on an intel brandwd mobo. Pcbonez opinion is that some moron recapped it (i got it used). But cmon they may have probs to!

[PCBONEZ]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

The last time Aopen made a motherboard was i845 era me thinks.

AOpen did quite a lot after i845 but their main focus was MODT boards for the car-PC and HTPC markets.

Just picked a few.
http://usa.aopen.com/products_detail.aspx?auno=2062
http://usa.aopen.com/products_detail.aspx?Auno=2973
http://usa.aopen.com/products_detail.aspx?auno=2064
http://usa.aopen.com/products_detail.aspx?Auno=2664
http://usa.aopen.com/products_detail.aspx?auno=2192
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[shovenose]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

Personally think that older asus boards sucked. (athlon xp days). But their newer offerings are really quite good. Ive seen some really good overclocking on asus boards...
There! Less cussing more info

[PCBONEZ]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

I think he was talking about ASUS motherboards for Intel processors, not Intel branded boards.

That is not what he 'said' and based on a previous discussion that isn't what he meant either.
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If he's surprised to see a non Jap cap on an Asus board for an Intel CPU that would be even worse.
OST ain't Japanese and Asus LOVES OST.
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[Quasar]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

The last time Aopen made a motherboard was i845 era me thinks.

The AX6BC Pro was legendary though.

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http://global.aopen.com/Products.aspx?id=52

http://www.techpowerup.com/100790/AO...therboard.html

All SFF stuff it seems.

Q

[weirdlookinguy]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

I think he was talking about ASUS motherboards for Intel processors, not Intel branded boards.

[PCBONEZ]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

Their Intel boards are overpriced though and are not all poly. I had a couple of ICH10/G45 motherboards and I was shocked to see some second-rate Chinese capacitors. Luckily, they were not in important places.

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You've claimed that before and you are full of it.
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I challenge you to find a single Intel brand motherboard with a Chinese cap on it [as original] that was made in this Millennium.
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[PCBONEZ]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

I think the 915 can handle Core2 as long as they're not the newer half-multiplier models.

No.

[mockingbird]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

Because at the time I still bought boards individually I didn't have time to wade through Asus large lineup to find the few boards weren't crap. It was much easier to buy Aopen where everything was top notch.

The last time Aopen made a motherboard was i845 era me thinks.

The AX6BC Pro was legendary though.

[Quasar]

Re: Upgrade system to Core 2 - Recommendations?

Recapping I can do. Understanding all this new stuff leaves me behind the eight ball. But, it's much clearer after these replies. I feel less intimidated and not so overwhelmed.

80386 anyone?

Is Aopen an option too?

Q