Fake caps on a Gigabyte?

[Behemot]

Found another suspicious caps, green Nichicon's and Matsushita (Panasonic). Both were on Gigabyte OEM board in VRM together with Sanyo OS-CON's. I did not succeed in finding anything about Panasonic FL series at all. As for Nichicon, HN(M) caps have gold casing, these are small and green for lower voltage - 4V.

So these are special order from Gigabyte or what?

[Behemot]

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...Sanyo OS-CON's...

I mean OS-CON SEPC of course

Anyway, I found some Panasonic FL between other caps and they have golden casing, too. Really strange, both Nichicon HN and Panasonic FL are golden and here I found green, small and for 4 V.

[Per Hansson]

Re: The Good Capacitors Photo Thread

Obvious fake, cheap bottom bung and no stamp on the top
Why are you posting this in "The Good Capacitors Photo Thread"?

[Behemot]

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Well, could be original Now when I know they're fakes, I'll have them moved. Thanks for info.

[PCBONEZ]

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Agree -> fakes.

Panasonic/Matsushita FL is a legit series but they aren't green.
FL are close to FJ for specs and the background color is black.
Not sold on open market, only direct to manufacturers.

[ratdude747]

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i guess gigabyte is not what everybody hyped them to be... using bad fakes?

[PCBONEZ]

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i guess gigabyte is not what everybody hyped them to be... using bad fakes?

More likely it's been recapped.

Blanket statements like 'this brand good' / 'that brand bad" is rather ignorant anyway when you don't even know what the board is because vintage matters.

[Behemot]

Re: The Good Capacitors Photo Thread

More likely it's been recapped.

No it wasn't. I've bought pair of this boards, both was intouched only non working. So I tried to take some caps out of them which was really dificult due to the quantity of copper Gigabyte use and also the hard solder. About half of them from VRM was damaged during the process

But anyway, rest of the caps were Chemi-Cons (IIRC TMU, KZE).

[PCBONEZ]

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Unless you've known them since new I dunno how you can claim to know they are untouched.

What board?

[PCBONEZ]

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What are the date codes?

[Behemot]

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The boards are GA-8TRC410MNF-RH. Old 775 with Radeon Xpress 200. I'll have a look at those date codes in a hour, have to finish something first.

Both boards came probably from directly from PC service to that secondhand store where I've bought them. They have no signes of soldering and as I said, there is hard solder used on them. Some of the caps I was not able to desolder even with micro blazer. You think somebody would recap them using the same hard solder not leaving any notice of soldering? Using OS-CON SEPC and fakes on a rota basis? Why not only fakes? Why not only OS-CON's? If you ask me, I think it's highly unlikely these really were recapped.

[PCBONEZ]

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You think somebody would recap them using the same hard solder not leaving any notice of soldering?

Yes. - Isn't much of a leap even.

Using OS-CON SEPC and fakes on a rota basis? Why not only fakes? Why not only OS-CON's?

Gigabyte using the most expensive caps there are on part of the board and the fakes on the rest of the board,,,,, now THATS a leap!

[Behemot]

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Good afternoon ma'am! Three independent sources, all af them has the same layouts and same caps in VRM as mine boards. You see those SEPC polymers and green fakes sitting one next other? Still think somebody recapped the boards? So I think I don't have to look at the date codes now…

Those big green caps in VRM are input Sanyo's (16 V for aditional filtering of 12V rail from PSU).

[PCBONEZ]

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This needs to move to it's own thread.
Getting too far OT for a sticky thread about Good caps..

[Per Hansson]

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Hahaha, wasn't it Gigabyte who lashed out at Asus for not using genuine Japanese capacitors?
I might just need to run this as a news story incase you can provide some _really_ good pictures of the capacitors installed around the VRM, poor Gigabyte
And I agree with PCBONEZ, mods, please move all these posts to a new thread in the Gigabyte forum with an appropriate name, as I said way back here

[Behemot]

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And I agree with PCBONEZ, mods, please move all these posts to a new thread in the Gigabyte forum with an appropriate name, as I said way back here

I've sent PM to Topcat...maybe I could send to somebody else, don't know who is active mode/admin
As for photos, what exactly do you want? I think the image of the green caps is good enough, I can only take a photo of the boards but without good caps since they're all desoldered now. Only some very small caps of unkwnow brand are left there

[Per Hansson]

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Behemot; there is a report post button, but it should only be used for reporting SPAM!
As for the pics, it would have been interesting if you had a good quality photo when the caps where untouched, but it's fine

[Behemot]

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I'd like to use the board for one project so I desolderd socket and also the MOSFET's from it with hot-air pistole (good thing for this!!). I btw measured them and only 2 of 10 aren't blowed. I don't expect I shorted them with the pistole so something was definitelly bad with the VRM here.

[ratdude747]

Re: The Good Capacitors Photo Thread

Obvious fake, cheap bottom bung and no stamp on the top
Why are you posting this in "The Good Capacitors Photo Thread"?

This needs to move to it's own thread.
Getting too far OT for a sticky thread about Good caps..

Hahaha, wasn't it Gigabyte who lashed out at Asus for not using genuine Japanese capacitors?
I might just need to run this as a news story incase you can provide some _really_ good pictures of the capacitors installed around the VRM, poor Gigabyte
And I agree with PCBONEZ, mods, please move all these posts to a new thread in the Gigabyte forum with an appropriate name, as I said way back here

I've sent PM to Topcat...maybe I could send to somebody else, don't know who is active mode/admin

And many years later, I just did.

(I was in the old thread fixing another issue, and found this. Might as well fix it.)

[OniJon]

Re: Fake caps on a Gigabyte?

Nichicon Muse BP and other Muses are green, but never seen green HN's. Series surely determines the colors and HN's are black/gold.