Using tantal caps instead of ceramics?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Behemot
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2009
    • 4845
    • CZ

    #1

    Using tantal caps instead of ceramics?

    I have one toy to play with now - ABIT BX133-RAID. There are places for many ceramic caps in the socket but I have little problem accessing it. I found only 10uF X7R ceramic caps here in Czech republic, buying them outside is too pricey (around half US dollar per piece is little too much considering I have to buy 100+ or even 500+ of them).

    So I was thinking about using tantal caps, is it possible? When doing so I'd of course have to find polarization of the joints in socket as long as tantals are polarized unlike ceramics.
    Less jewellery, more gold into electrotech industry! Half of the computer problems is caused by bad contacts

    Exclusive caps, meters and more!
    Hardware Insights - power supply reviews and more!
  • Toasty
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jul 2007
    • 4171

    #2
    Re: Using tantal caps instead of ceramics?

    You are referring to the center of the CPU socket?

    Pictures I can find on the web only show MLCC's in there, no tantalums. Tantalums are no cheaper from my experience.

    Toast
    veritas odium parit

    Comment

    • Behemot
      Badcaps Legend
      • Dec 2009
      • 4845
      • CZ

      #3
      Re: Using tantal caps instead of ceramics?

      Yeah this ones.

      I can buy great amount of old tantalums on our equivavelnt of eBay, someone has these old ones which he wants to get rid of. Do the capacitance of tantals degradate over time? If not I can buy them even they're liek a 10 years old?
      Less jewellery, more gold into electrotech industry! Half of the computer problems is caused by bad contacts

      Exclusive caps, meters and more!
      Hardware Insights - power supply reviews and more!

      Comment

      • kc8adu
        Super Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 8832
        • U.S.A!

        #4
        Re: Using tantal caps instead of ceramics?

        just look for junked newer boards to salvage mlcc's from.
        just for the hell of it poly mod it.

        Comment

        • Behemot
          Badcaps Legend
          • Dec 2009
          • 4845
          • CZ

          #5
          Re: Using tantal caps instead of ceramics?

          On all dead boards I have are just tiny ceramics, I want to take the hell out of the system (with wired Tualatin). Such a low-capacity ceramics are not suitable
          Less jewellery, more gold into electrotech industry! Half of the computer problems is caused by bad contacts

          Exclusive caps, meters and more!
          Hardware Insights - power supply reviews and more!

          Comment

          • kc8adu
            Super Moderator
            • Nov 2003
            • 8832
            • U.S.A!

            #6
            Re: Using tantal caps instead of ceramics?

            esp laptop boards are full of them.you want vcore bypasses for inside the socket?i remember these had a bunch of spots for them.use these to replace the vcore caps.
            https://www.badcaps.net/store/produc...products_id=76
            getting ready to do a friends vp6.
            Attached Files

            Comment

            • Behemot
              Badcaps Legend
              • Dec 2009
              • 4845
              • CZ

              #7
              Re: Using tantal caps instead of ceramics?

              Yeah the board has empty soldering spots for ceramics inside socket. I've already changed all electrolytes for Samxon GC's and by these I think I could help it.

              I do not have so many polymer's right now and this would be rather expensive to poly-mod such and old MoBo

              Trodas has some info about the board on his site http://trodas.wz.cz/index.php?act=ST&f=16&t=426&s=
              Less jewellery, more gold into electrotech industry! Half of the computer problems is caused by bad contacts

              Exclusive caps, meters and more!
              Hardware Insights - power supply reviews and more!

              Comment

              • Agent24
                I see dead caps
                • Oct 2007
                • 4923
                • New Zealand

                #8
                Re: Using tantal caps instead of ceramics?

                Since the tantalums are polarized and the ceramics are not, I think you will have a problem.
                "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                -David VanHorn

                Comment

                • Behemot
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 4845
                  • CZ

                  #9
                  Re: Using tantal caps instead of ceramics?

                  Yeah I'd have to discover the polarity. I think it is polarized, as I understand it that's just another filtration of input current, just directly in socket.
                  Less jewellery, more gold into electrotech industry! Half of the computer problems is caused by bad contacts

                  Exclusive caps, meters and more!
                  Hardware Insights - power supply reviews and more!

                  Comment

                  • Th3_uN1Qu3
                    Believe in
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 6031
                    • Romania

                    #10
                    Re: Using tantal caps instead of ceramics?

                    Exactly. And one side will be ground, so it's trivial really.
                    Originally posted by PeteS in CA
                    Remember that by the time consequences of a short-sighted decision are experienced, the idiot who made the bad decision may have already been promoted or moved on to a better job at another company.
                    A working TV? How boring!

                    Comment

                    Related Topics

                    Collapse

                    • momaka
                      Seasonic B12 BC-550 – barely 2 years old and with BAD CAPS already!
                      by momaka
                      I know I've been a little scarce lately (like the last 2-3 years), but I'm still here and still doing my thing with fixing PSUs.

                      For today's considerations, I have a Seasonic B12 BC-550 [A551bcafh] 550 Watt ATX power supply for you (click on links for full size images).

                      https://www.badcaps.net/filedata/fetch?id=3591771


                      https://www.badcaps.net/filedata/fetch?id=3591772

                      It's a modern ATX unit with fixed (non-modular) cables and an 80-plus bronze certificate. Here's the label:

                      https://www.badcaps.net/filedata/fetch?id=359177...
                      03-12-2025, 03:42 PM
                    • eryjus
                      Heathkit IO-4205 Power Supply Caps
                      by eryjus
                      Hello,

                      First, I am a complete noob with high voltage stuff. I'm learning, but I need help by someone looking over my shoulder.

                      I recently came into posession of a Heathkit IO-4205 5MHz Dual Trace Oscilloscope. The documentation is copyright 1978. I'm told it works.

                      I opened it up to check the caps before I applied power, and found the following black caps and wanted to know what they were. They are on the power supply board. I was able to read the name and model and came up with, "Nytronics 162J-1, 0.1uF, 20% tolerance, 2000VDC."
                      ...
                      05-10-2023, 11:21 AM
                    • Paxman_Swede
                      Identifying caps on an old Zoom 9000
                      by Paxman_Swede
                      Hello!

                      I have two projects on my work bench. One is a friends dead JBL Xtreme speaker with a blown voltage regulator and corresponding bulged and shorted cap. That cap has clear markings so I know what replacement I need for it.

                      The other project however is a whole different deal. It's a Zoom 9000 guitar effect from the 90th that has developed a devil hound howl when there is no input from the guitar. I'm guessing caps problem. So, since I don't really use this effect anymore I thought it would be a perfect project to learn on.

                      I have studied the board and...
                      01-14-2025, 09:51 AM
                    • captain150
                      Help with switching power supply caps
                      by captain150
                      I'm trying to repair two old VCRs, they both have bad caps. One has leaky ones, the other would barely run until I subbed in some caps from another power supply I had laying around (though they are the wrong values). This vcr works for an hour or two, but then the power supply starts whining and the picture gets lines in it. I didn't replace all the secondary caps, so another voltage might still be problematic, or the values I used are too far off.
                      I've been on mouser and digikey but the options are a bit overwhelming. I just need some new ones that will work. They don't need to be top quality,...
                      03-16-2025, 07:34 PM
                    • Foetuss
                      Gigabyte GA-6OXT :: caps question
                      by Foetuss
                      Good evening

                      I recently aquired a rev 1.1 Gigabyte 60XT, and was suprised of the amount of leaking caps for a motherboard of the P3 era. Especially the way the 330µf caps seems like the housing discolored even.
                      Now, there are some 3300µF 6.3V KZG series around the CPU. Would it be OK to replace them with something like EEUFR1A332 ? (Panasonic FR 3300µF 10V). Or was this board designed around very low ESR caps?

                      But I was also suprised about the bigger boys, which are 330µF 25V.
                      Could it be they used 25V caps because they were cheaper / available at that time?...
                      02-11-2025, 12:22 PM
                    • Loading...
                    • No more items.
                    Working...