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  • Ryckmav
    Member
    • May 2014
    • 45
    • Canada

    #1

    Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

    I created a new thread since this problem is not the same as other Samsung thread I was posting in.

    Mine just wont turn on,I got no blinking light,sound...just dead.

    tom66 suggest this to me about 2 months ago
    Re: Samsung PN50550T Won't Turn On!
    You need to use a capacitance meter. If you do not have one you will have to take a chance and replace it, total cost about $5.
    http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...0492-ND/269112
    The capacitor is the little cyan/blue cuboid near the transformer, middle top of power board.
    ok since then,I got the part and a cap meter



    #1 on pic is the cap you refer to Tom66?,but with a capacitance meter
    on the 2uf scale the new one read .063 and the one on the board read .069,should I still change it?(new one is http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...0492-ND/269112 )

    #2 is those 3 cap I decide to test,those 3 cap are 450V and 150uf and on the 200uf scale they all read 1 (this was done with cap still on the board),they should read 150uf +- 10% no????

    #3 well this one look crucial betwen them 2 transformator,should I check it? if so at what value,or this is the cuboid cyan you were talking about tom???

    or should I check other stuff?

    thanks for any help.
    Last edited by Ryckmav; 07-07-2014, 07:28 AM.
  • Ryckmav
    Member
    • May 2014
    • 45
    • Canada

    #2
    Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

    any clue any one or another forum that could help out?

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    • sordids999
      Badcaps Legend
      • May 2013
      • 2149
      • uk

      #3
      Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

      hello have u checked for cold solder joints ive had this before but tom will proberly reply soon

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      • vinceroger69
        Badcaps Legend
        • Mar 2012
        • 6714
        • uk

        #4
        Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

        have you got a soldering iron you can desolder the capacitor you have marked as 2 i always remove and test capacitors myself to get a true reading number one is the capacitor tom is talking about imo.

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        • Shinju
          Badcaps Legend
          • Mar 2014
          • 1239
          • USA

          #5
          Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

          Did you check the fuse near the plug with the 120AC Brown and blue wires?

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          • selldoor
            Slow Learner
            • Dec 2010
            • 7870

            #6
            Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

            1 Old one should be ok - they are within 10% of each other

            2 Did you still have your meter on 2uf ? if so it would be off scale ("1")
            Did you discharge the caps completely before testing?
            In most cases you need to remove the cap to test it.
            Instructions come with your meter?

            3 It is not cuboid so it is not the one Tom mentioned - the one you tested in 1 is the cuboid.
            It should say on it what value though they dont often fail.

            I know nothing about plasma Tvs so cant really help further
            I am assuming you have tested the 2 fuses and checked the voltages in and out of the board and the voltages on the big caps ( carefully- high voltage 300vDC+)
            Please upload pictures using attachment function when ask for help on the repair
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39740

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            • Shinju
              Badcaps Legend
              • Mar 2014
              • 1239
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

              Also just for precautionary reasons, check for small cracks on the panel. These Samsung/Insignia 550's and 650 panels are well known for screen failures and random cracks/pops.

              I have a low hour Insignia same as this panel (Samsung made) with a toasted screen (only 3500 hours), vertical and horizontal lines ugh!

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              • Ryckmav
                Member
                • May 2014
                • 45
                • Canada

                #8
                Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

                Originally posted by Shinju
                Did you check the fuse near the plug with the 120AC Brown and blue wires?
                yes all 4 fuses was check so as the power near the fuse

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                • Ryckmav
                  Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 45
                  • Canada

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

                  Originally posted by selldoor
                  1 Old one should be ok - they are within 10% of each other

                  2 Did you still have your meter on 2uf ?

                  I am assuming you have tested the 2 fuses and checked the voltages in and out of the board and the voltages on the big caps ( carefully- high voltage 300vDC+)
                  200uf scale I was set to

                  and no I did not check for voltage,I will now

                  Originally posted by vinceroger69
                  have you got a soldering iron you can desolder the capacitor you have marked as 2 i always remove and test capacitors myself to get a true reading number one is the capacitor tom is talking about imo.
                  I will try this too


                  Originally posted by Shinju
                  Also just for precautionary reasons, check for small cracks on the panel. These Samsung/Insignia 550's and 650 panels are well known for screen failures and random cracks/pops.

                  I have a low hour Insignia same as this panel (Samsung made) with a toasted screen (only 3500 hours), vertical and horizontal lines ugh!
                  I did check for crack but I'll check again

                  and all 4 fuse check ok


                  and thank you all for your help
                  Last edited by Ryckmav; 07-13-2014, 06:54 AM.

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                  • tw2005
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 6458
                    • Australia

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

                    Those 150uF caps are in parallel so testing in cct would mean measuring any one would be 450uF. 3 x 150uf

                    You can get the PSU schematic here



                    Covers both the 42 and 50" version as you'll see different components used in the same location.

                    So, totally dead as in no standby light, no relay clicks when attempting to turn this on?

                    fast track guide here


                    has the B version of your PSU but that should not matter.

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                    • Ryckmav
                      Member
                      • May 2014
                      • 45
                      • Canada

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

                      thanks tw2005,I'll check those link in a minute

                      I just check those 3 cap for voltage,all 3 read zero on the 1000vDC scale (yes TV was plug in then)

                      ---------------------------
                      So, totally dead as in no standby light, no relay clicks when attempting to turn this on?

                      If I touch the front touch pad button;I seem to ear a faint tick coming the external connection board (cable/speaker/usb...) and this board is way on the opposite side???
                      could be static and not related? this also done with TV plugin the wall

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                      • Ryckmav
                        Member
                        • May 2014
                        • 45
                        • Canada

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

                        Originally posted by tw2005
                        Those 150uF caps are in parallel so testing in cct would mean measuring any one would be 450uF. 3 x 150uf.
                        and this is why I cant test them on the board;my meter only goes to 200uf,thanks

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                        • Ryckmav
                          Member
                          • May 2014
                          • 45
                          • Canada

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

                          ok here is another way we could test this,I aint a pro in TV but I am a millwright from 1976
                          and I can fix anything once I back track the source of the problem,

                          those 3 cap read zero voltage because no power get to them so I must look up stream,the problem is between the source of power and them 3 caps ,so what can I check that is between them 2?

                          thanks for wasting on me,but in the long run it's worthy because if nothing is done
                          ......what a waste of material to fill ass hole cheat who are selfish.

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                          • martino
                            Not so "senior"
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 997
                            • canada

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

                            Originally posted by Ryckmav
                            If I touch the front touch pad button;I seem to ear a faint tick coming the external connection board (cable/speaker/usb...) and this board is way on the opposite side???
                            could be static and not related? this also done with TV plugin the wall
                            Does it have a SDcard slot? check if there isn't a penny shoved in there or something (has happened before).

                            Also,on the plug that goes from powerboard to mainboard,there should be printings beside it,standby voltage,ps-on etc... Did you measure if you have standby voltage on that plug? unplug all wires from power board,except the 110volt...
                            Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


                            Our website and passion:http://hollenhundshepherds.com/

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                            • Ryckmav
                              Member
                              • May 2014
                              • 45
                              • Canada

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

                              no SD card slot mr.martino,but some dirty usb slot which I vacuum clean and by doing this;I notice that they is a direct wire going from usb panel to the front touch pad????

                              the main board (I call it the power board, see pic on top),if I unplug all but the 110v,it read
                              117v BUT zero amps,should be 10A if all work ok and must at least be .1 amps when it's off?
                              I tested this by removing the fuse near the 110v entry.

                              and thanks for your help and dont quit easy,I want to know why this costly TV quit so fast and so many get rip by them.

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                              • martino
                                Not so "senior"
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 997
                                • canada

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

                                Can you find HS802? 4 leg component(on heatsink) It should have -~~+ marked on them..
                                Do you get 110volt on the 2 legs with the ~ symbol? meter on AC(200volt scale).
                                Careful,don't slip with the meter probes...!!!
                                Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


                                Our website and passion:http://hollenhundshepherds.com/

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                                • mscserbia
                                  Member
                                  • Dec 2013
                                  • 17
                                  • Serbia

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

                                  Check varistor.

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                                  • martino
                                    Not so "senior"
                                    • Aug 2013
                                    • 997
                                    • canada

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

                                    I do have the exact same tv here with the y board broken,I am willing to compare measurements as this powerboard is perfectly fine.....
                                    Proud owner of dozens of broken TV's and many,many,many boards.


                                    Our website and passion:http://hollenhundshepherds.com/

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                                    • Ryckmav
                                      Member
                                      • May 2014
                                      • 45
                                      • Canada

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

                                      Originally posted by martino
                                      Can you find HS802? 4 leg component(on heatsink) It should have -~~+ marked on them..
                                      Do you get 110volt on the 2 legs with the ~ symbol? meter on AC(200volt scale).
                                      Careful,don't slip with the meter probes...!!!
                                      I cant find this,point me in the right direction please.
                                      ------------------------------------------------

                                      another test I made on the power board;
                                      Red lead to CN801 pin #3
                                      Black lead to CN801 pin #4
                                      I read zero
                                      did this with CN801 unplug but all other plugin and I tried also with all unplug except the 120 ac V plugin.

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                                      • Ryckmav
                                        Member
                                        • May 2014
                                        • 45
                                        • Canada

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung plasma pn50B550t2f wont turn on

                                        Y board is the one on the left Martino??? back view that is,because on the back cover I can see a clear spark mark coming from there,I can take a picture if needed,I assume this was dirt in the air from smokers but looking close at it,this was a spark explosion trace.

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