Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

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  • Ukdigger
    Senior Member
    • May 2020
    • 121
    • England

    #1

    Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

    I'm guessing that the panel is faulty, but I've never seen one do this before. Can anyone confirm this before I sell it for spare parts.
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  • nomoresonys
    Badcaps Legend
    • Jan 2013
    • 12087
    • U.S.

    #2
    Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

    very likely, can you give the bezel NOT the screen a squeeze, see if the display changes any.

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    • Diah
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2013
      • 6354
      • Germany

      #3
      Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

      i tipp on Firmware issue panel MFC ... re flash an update or downgrade.

      yours MB are 17MB230 , search this forum i linked firmware for full v0.38.30
      Last edited by Diah; 05-12-2022, 01:11 PM.

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      • dskall
        Badcaps Legend
        • Oct 2016
        • 2905
        • usa

        #4
        Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

        I would be checking for proper voltages at t-con first.
        I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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        • nomoresonys
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          • Jan 2013
          • 12087
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          #5
          Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

          my first thought was bad tab bond contact, possibly "fixed" with shims.

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          • Ukdigger
            Senior Member
            • May 2020
            • 121
            • England

            #6
            Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

            My pictures show what happens in sequence when turning on from cold. In the final one the picture freezes and the screen goes about 90% black, the sound carries on working normally, this all happens within a minute or so.
            Squeezing the bezel at any point makes no difference.
            TCON BOARD is CCPD-TC575-009 V1.0 STCON676G
            VCC = 3.2v
            VCOM L = 6.9v
            VCOM R = 4v
            AVDD = 0v
            VGHIN = 0v
            VGL = 1v

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            • Ukdigger
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              • May 2020
              • 121
              • England

              #7
              Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

              With the left ribbon disconnected the right half of the screen works perfectly
              With the right ribbon disconnected the left half of the screen has the problem

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              • nomoresonys
                Badcaps Legend
                • Jan 2013
                • 12087
                • U.S.

                #8
                Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

                try the tape cut-off method.

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                • nomoresonys
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                  • Jan 2013
                  • 12087
                  • U.S.

                  #9
                  Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

                  AVDD = 0v: should be 13-20
                  VGHIN = 0v if this is vgh then probably 20-30
                  VGL = 1v: should be -5 to -12

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                  • Ukdigger
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                    • May 2020
                    • 121
                    • England

                    #10
                    Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

                    With the left ribbon disconnected

                    AVDD = 15.3v
                    VGHIN = 23.9v
                    VGL = 5.9v

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                    • Ukdigger
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                      • May 2020
                      • 121
                      • England

                      #11
                      Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

                      With the right ribbon disconnected
                      AVDD = 15.2v
                      VGHIN = 23.6v
                      VGL = 5.9v

                      Has a whited out picture but doesn't fade to black
                      Last edited by Ukdigger; 05-13-2022, 07:14 AM.

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                      • Ukdigger
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2020
                        • 121
                        • England

                        #12
                        Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

                        Both ribbons connected and voltages have come back. full picture with no fade to black but random faint vertical striping.
                        Shouldn't VCOM left and right be the same?
                        Last edited by Ukdigger; 05-13-2022, 07:49 AM.

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                        • nomoresonys
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                          • Jan 2013
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                          #13
                          Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

                          seems like it, I would test all the little caps on the tcon, with panel driver board cables unplugged, if you don't find any short plug cables back in and test again, also test the caps on the panel driver board, with tcon to panel cables unplugged, test diode/continuity mode, one probe on ground, chassis ground is ok, other probe on each side of cap, one side should beep or read close to 000, other side should not beep or have a reading. Can also test for very low ohms.

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                          • Ukdigger
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                            • May 2020
                            • 121
                            • England

                            #14
                            Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

                            I can't find any shorted caps on the T-con board when plugged or unplugged form panel driver board. The caps on the right side panel driver board all test good when unplugged from the T-con board. The caps on the left side panel driver board can't be tested as there is no ground when unplugged from the T-con board but test ok when plugged into the T-con board.

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                            • nomoresonys
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                              • Jan 2013
                              • 12087
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                              #15
                              Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

                              vertical stripes or partial vertical stripes can be tcon issue. maybe cleaning the ribbon cables going to panel might help, some use pencil eraser some use q-tip and isopropyl alcohol, not to vigorous they can be delicate, be sure and let it dry a while. Check the side going to the mainboard too.
                              Last edited by nomoresonys; 05-13-2022, 02:51 PM.

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                              • Ukdigger
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                                • May 2020
                                • 121
                                • England

                                #16
                                Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

                                I tried the tape method using a paper strip just wide enough to cover 8 contacts. The TV works now with no problems. I watched these two videos to help.
                                Thanks for everyone who helped.

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfrRhw7-ZII
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQbnbqF_g2s

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                                • nomoresonys
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                                  • Jan 2013
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

                                  ala post #8, glad to hear it.

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                                  • Grandalf
                                    New Member
                                    • Sep 2022
                                    • 2
                                    • uk

                                    #18
                                    Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

                                    Looks like I have a similar problem. How did you figure out which are the clock lines, they are not marked. Have tried second one in and the next 7 from both ends of the connector. No difference at all. Only spare boards available in the uk are from china. Any advice really appreciated

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                                    • Grandalf
                                      New Member
                                      • Sep 2022
                                      • 2
                                      • uk

                                      #19
                                      Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

                                      Additional to last post. My Tcon is CCPD-TC575-009-V1.0. This is very difficult to find. Anyone know if any other boards will fit. There seems to be a few different ones all shown as suitable for this model, but not sure if any of these versions will work, mine is 2009 I think

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                                      • dskall
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                                        • Oct 2016
                                        • 2905
                                        • usa

                                        #20
                                        Re: Toshiba 58UL2B63DB Suspected Bad Panel

                                        What voltages are you missing?
                                        I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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