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  • russianbar
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    • May 2021
    • 14
    • UK

    #1

    Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

    Hi everyone thanks for accepting me to your forum. I have a problem with the above set, functions perfectly apart from backlights. I've tested them with LED tester and both sets light up ok in fact with the tester connected the TV is perfectly watchable. When connected to the BN44-0876A supply they don't illuminate, I've removed the connection to the main board which I believe should have brought them on as well but nothing. Is it possible for the fault sensing in the power supply to pick something up in the LEDs which the tester isn't showing or is it more likely to be a fault in the PSU?
  • alfatv
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    • Sep 2020
    • 353
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    #2
    Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

    You need to get a multimeter and do some measurements.
    Also, with LED tester, are all LED's on? No dark spots? What are voltage readings with LED tester?

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    • russianbar
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      • May 2021
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      #3
      Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

      Originally posted by alfatv
      You need to get a multimeter and do some measurements.
      Also, with LED tester, are all LED's on? No dark spots? What are voltage readings with LED tester?
      Light spread looks ok no dark spots (it's edge lit) I'm showing 72 volts on each array (there's 2). Refering to the picture I'm measuring with LEDs connected:
      Pin 3 1+ 365v
      Pin 7 1- 296v
      Pin 4 2+ 296v
      Pin 8 2- 227v
      All measurements to case.
      Attached Files

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      • alfatv
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        • Sep 2020
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        #4
        Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

        Did you measure it with multimeter or LED tester?
        If with LED tester, you should unplug connector and measure at connector pins.

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        • russianbar
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          • May 2021
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          #5
          Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

          Originally posted by alfatv
          Did you measure it with multimeter or LED tester?
          If with LED tester, you should unplug connector and measure at connector pins.
          The 72 volt was measured by the tester when connected to the LEDs which were disconnected. The others were measured using a Fluke 789/E multimeter at the LED connection to the the power supply with the LEDs connected.

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          • dick_barton
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            • Aug 2015
            • 6642
            • Wales

            #6
            Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

            The BN44-0876A appears to be a power supply for a 55" set with led voltage when in 2D is given as 200V @520mA and when in 3D given as 231V @ 1040mA

            Is this the correct power supply for your set?

            https://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-bn...w-112345157940
            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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            • russianbar
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              • May 2021
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              #7
              Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

              Yes mate that's the one. I believe it's fitted to quite a few different sets
              Last edited by russianbar; 05-25-2021, 09:39 AM.

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              • alfatv
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                • Sep 2020
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                #8
                Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

                Supply voltage to LEDs looks OK.
                There is a mosfet that controls current through LEDs.
                It's drain should be connected to pin 8 of connector.
                Check the voltages on that mosfet pins.
                And obviously inspect PCB for solder joint cracks, check transistors and diodes with multimeter.

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                • russianbar
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                  • May 2021
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                  #9
                  Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

                  Originally posted by alfatv
                  Supply voltage to LEDs looks OK.
                  There is a mosfet that controls current through LEDs.
                  It's drain should be connected to pin 8 of connector.
                  Check the voltages on that mosfet pins.
                  And obviously inspect PCB for solder joint cracks, check transistors and diodes with multimeter.
                  I'll check it this morning and get back

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                  • russianbar
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                    • May 2021
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                    #10
                    Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

                    All looks ok apart from what looks like a choke/coil inductor which is open circuit L9101CS?
                    Attached Files

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                    • dick_barton
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                      • Aug 2015
                      • 6642
                      • Wales

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

                      Run some fresh solder on the inductor pads and test again. L is generally a prefix for an inductor.
                      Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                      • russianbar
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                        • May 2021
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                        #12
                        Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

                        Took it out still o/c but big crack in the base looks like we may have the culprit, anyone know of an equivalent because the number doesn't bring up many results
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                        • alfatv
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                          • Sep 2020
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                          #13
                          Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

                          I found this part reported bad in other forums, so it seems to be typical failure.
                          And I found datasheet too:
                          http://www.mu-sem.com/bbs/download.p...&wr_id=14&no=0
                          3mH is quite high value for inductor.
                          You can search replacement by inductance and other specs in the datasheet.
                          Or if you have a meter with inductance measurement, you can try some parts from scrap boards like transformers, common mode chokes. And you can connect windings in series to get the right inductance. It doesn't need to be precise, can be 20-30% off, usually slightly more is better.
                          Good luck!
                          Last edited by alfatv; 05-26-2021, 02:02 PM.

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                          • russianbar
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                            Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

                            Originally posted by alfatv
                            I found this part reported bad in other forums, so it seems to be typical failure.
                            And I found datasheet too:
                            http://www.mu-sem.com/bbs/download.p...&wr_id=14&no=0
                            3mH is quite high value for inductor.
                            You can search replacement by inductance and other specs in the datasheet.
                            Or if you have a meter with inductance measurement, you can try some parts from scrap boards like transformers, common mode chokes. And you can connect windings in series to get the right inductance. It doesn't need to be precise, can be 20-30% off, usually slightly more is better.
                            Good luck!
                            Thanks alpha, can you link to any threads on this?
                            Last edited by russianbar; 05-26-2021, 02:43 PM. Reason: addition to txt

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                            • alfatv
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                              • Sep 2020
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                              #15
                              Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

                              In your language, but not much useful
                              https://kenotrontv.ru/topic/7464-sam...ont-podsvetki/
                              https://kenotrontv.ru/topic/7455-isc...p-bn44-00876a/
                              http://monitor.espec.ws/section48/topic320937.html

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                              • russianbar
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                                #16
                                Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

                                Thanks again alfa (I'm not Russian just once owned a bar in Greece called Russian Bar )

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                                • russianbar
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

                                  New power supply board from Ebay £10 and sorted. Not impressed with picture on the set though (given to me by daughter fix and keep) it'll be ok for a bedroom I suppose. Menus and guides are razor sharp but the definition even UHD below par. My main set is Sony KD-55X8509C am I expecting to much from the Samsung in comparison. Anyone know if there is any adjustments needed to match supply with set? Might swap the good inductor out of the new board and put it in the original?

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                                  • Storyteller12
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                                    • Jun 2020
                                    • 624
                                    • USA

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

                                    This is a entry level tv and not one of Samsung’s best. I believe it’s only 60hz refresh rate. The ku9500 is probably closer to your Sony.

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                                    • russianbar
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung 49KU6400U backlight

                                      Massive thanks to all contributors

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