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  • shawt99
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    • Oct 2016
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    vizio 50in plasma psu problem

    hello everyone i am currently working on a vizio jv50phdtv10a with power supply aax30284301. for some reason when i test to voltages at the connectors all of the 5v supplies are putting out .81 volts instead of 5 volts. the p.o. attempted to replace the caps on this board and im pretty sure caps 285 and 287 are wrong, if anybody knows the values of those caps and any ideas as to why the 5v connects are only reading .81 volts that would be great. thank you in advance.
  • R_J
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    • Jun 2012
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    #2
    Re: vizio 50in plasma psu problem

    What makes you think the caps are wrong? post some pictures so we can see what you are talking about.
    The 5 volt standby comes from T501, the smps ic is U501, What voltage do you have across C522? You should have about 160v dc, If you have 160v, unplug and check the resistance of R510, if it is open, U501 is bad.
    C287 is 470uf likely 25v C285 could be around 100uf or less likely 25v also
    Last edited by R_J; 09-12-2018, 10:37 AM.

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    • Andrew F. Ali
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      • Jan 2014
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      #3
      Re: vizio 50in plasma psu problem

      Originally posted by r_j
      what makes you think the caps are wrong? Post some pictures so we can see what you are talking about.
      +100

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      • shawt99
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        #4
        Re: vizio 50in plasma psu problem

        at the moment 285 is a 10v 3300uf and 287 is a 10v 1000uf so id say something is wrong there lol. heres a couple of pictures
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        • R_J
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          • Jun 2012
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          #5
          Re: vizio 50in plasma psu problem

          Here is the shopjimmy picture, those caps are indeed wrong but not the cause of the missing 5 volts. What is the part number on U501?
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          Last edited by R_J; 09-12-2018, 11:56 AM.

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          • shawt99
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            #6
            Re: vizio 50in plasma psu problem

            just got done swapping those caps out and taking some measurements. C522 does in fact have 160v across it. Actual reading was 161.3v

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            • shawt99
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              Re: vizio 50in plasma psu problem

              str w6251

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              • shawt99
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                Re: vizio 50in plasma psu problem

                my 5v standby voltage is there. the reading on that was 4.91. its the 5v to the mainboard and ysus board that is only reading .81 both are labeled as 5vsc.

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                • R_J
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                  • Jun 2012
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                  Re: vizio 50in plasma psu problem

                  Ok so you have +5v standby going to the mainboard, good. Do you have any voltage on RL-ON when you press the power button, or can you hear the relay click when you press the button?
                  Last edited by R_J; 09-12-2018, 12:22 PM.

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                  • shawt99
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                    #10
                    Re: vizio 50in plasma psu problem

                    no sorry, i have 5v standby on the psu. the 3 5vsc pins that send 5v from the psu to the mainboard are only sending .81 instead of the full 5v. so the mainboard isnt getting the required voltage.

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                    • R_J
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                      • Jun 2012
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                      #11
                      Re: vizio 50in plasma psu problem

                      So you are getting RL-ON voltage from the main????

                      The 5V standby that supplies the main board, and runs the processor, when you push the power button the processor outputs a logic level to RL-ON, that turns on the power supply and THEN you get the other voltages like the 9Vsc, 5Vsc etc.
                      Once you have those you will get the VS-ON conmmand from the main to turn on the VS & Va
                      Last edited by R_J; 09-12-2018, 02:05 PM.

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                      • shawt99
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                        #12
                        Re: vizio 50in plasma psu problem

                        yes i have RL On. thats reading 4.39 volts. no relay click on the psu however.

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                        • R_J
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                          Re: vizio 50in plasma psu problem

                          It could be that the RL-ON line needs to be taken low to turn on the power supply.
                          If you disconnect P800 from the main is the RL-ON still high? if it is take it to ground, you should here the relay turn on.

                          The section of the power supply that gives you 5Vsc comes via D271 from the secondary of T112, for T112 to operate requires U151 and Q151 to drive it. Which requires voltage that is across C603, which comes from D101 bridge rectifier, The ac for the bridge is fed via RL102 and the two green thermistors TH102 and TH101, which will get shorted by relay rl101.
                          Last edited by R_J; 09-12-2018, 02:46 PM.

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                          • shawt99
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                            Re: vizio 50in plasma psu problem

                            sorry for the delay, i had some time to mess with the set again and you were absolutely correct, when p800 to main is disconnected the relays click on. so something on the main is stopping the psu from powering on? i have had a case with this set before where the main would keep blowing up. the set would run for 10 minutes or so and then no sound and no picture.

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