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  • jackfish
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2016
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    #1

    Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

    Have a Samsung here that seems dead.. checked the power where it says standby it only reads at 1.8 volts no visible sign of bad caps on board..output to video board is also 1.8..
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  • dskall
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2016
    • 2905
    • usa

    #2
    Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

    What is voltage across your main cap?
    I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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    • jackfish
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      #3
      Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

      Other pic
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      • budm
        Badcaps Legend
        • Feb 2010
        • 40746
        • USA

        #4
        Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

        Any good clear pictures of the whole back side of the TV showing all the board?
        Pictures of the whole power supply board?
        Power supply board P/N BN44-???????
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        • jackfish
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          • Dec 2016
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          #5
          Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

          Power supply bn44-00787a Have to get another pic..

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          • budm
            Badcaps Legend
            • Feb 2010
            • 40746
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

            So if you disconnect the cable between the power supply board and the main board then power up the power supply board, what DCV do you get on jumper J846?

            http://www.shopjimmy.com/catalogsear...?q=bn44-00787a
            Pictures provided by shopjimmy. BN44-00787a
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            Never stop learning
            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

            Inverter testing using old CFL:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

            TV Factory reset codes listing:
            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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            • jackfish
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2016
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              #7
              Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

              1.8vdc..when I prob the fuse it's giving me 28vac

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #8
                Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

                Originally posted by jackfish
                1.8vdc..when I prob the fuse it's giving me 28vac
                Which fuse? The main AC fuse in the hot side? 28VAC cannot be right. Where did you put the leads of the probes to read that 28VAC?
                Never stop learning
                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                • jackfish
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                  • Dec 2016
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                  #9
                  Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

                  Took the board off..probed it from underneath..getting 123vac on the fuse..put the negative probe on the chassis top left corner by the three caps under the stb 8v ..still reads 1.8vdc..does the board need to be jumped to get a reading?

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                  • budm
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40746
                    • USA

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

                    Originally posted by jackfish
                    Took the board off..probed it from underneath..getting 123vac on the fuse..put the negative probe on the chassis top left corner by the three caps under the stb 8v ..still reads 1.8vdc..does the board need to be jumped to get a reading?
                    How did you go about measuring the AC Voltage on the fuse, where did you put the two meter probes? When check the incoming AC in the hot side you do not use chassis GND. You put one probe on Neutral and another to check each end of the fuse.
                    Last edited by budm; 05-04-2017, 01:53 PM.
                    Never stop learning
                    Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                    Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                    Inverter testing using old CFL:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                    Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                    http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                    TV Factory reset codes listing:
                    http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

                      The 8VDC Standby should be present the minute you apply 120VAC to the power supply board.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • jackfish
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 89
                        • canada

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

                        Nope..no 8v..i checked a different tv to see if my multi meters working.. was getting 12v at places where it was suppose to be...

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                        • budm
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 40746
                          • USA

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

                          At this point I cannot tell if you are getting 120vac to the bridge rectifier or not, so another way to find out is to check the DCV between the two legs of that black cap laying on its side to see if you have about 160vdc or not, or buy new board if you cannot troubleshoot down to component level.
                          BTW, you can do SMD device removal/installation, right?
                          Last edited by budm; 05-04-2017, 07:31 PM.
                          Never stop learning
                          Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                          Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                          Inverter testing using old CFL:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                          Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                          http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                          TV Factory reset codes listing:
                          http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                          • jackfish
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2016
                            • 89
                            • canada

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

                            The big cap is kicking out 170vdc...i can do soldering anremoval..im trying to post a pic but for some reason it won't let me..the small transformer on the cold side looks discolored around it..

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                            • jackfish
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                              • Dec 2016
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                              #15
                              Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

                              Area looks heated...
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                              • budm
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 40746
                                • USA

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

                                Originally posted by jackfish
                                Area looks heated...
                                That section is the Voltage Boost Converter for the Backlights LEDs.
                                So you do have the main DCV to run the primary drive circuit.
                                At this point start by checking those black rectifier diodes in the cold side to make sure they are OK first, you have 9 of them.
                                BTW, there is SMD Power MOSFET on the bottom side of the board where there is sign of heating, check and see if that MOSFET Q9101? is OK or not.
                                Last edited by budm; 05-04-2017, 09:04 PM.
                                Never stop learning
                                Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                • jackfish
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Dec 2016
                                  • 89
                                  • canada

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

                                  Piped off one leg on each diode to test.. .they only read in one direction...the mosfet under the burn reads at both legs.. all others read only on the right leg..took it off the board to make sure..

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                                  • jackfish
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                                    • Dec 2016
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

                                    Replaced that power mosfet ..picked one off a 55 inch Emerson tv that had a broken screen..working for five hours so far....wonder if heat killed that chip..

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                                    • Jeff Pepin
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Jun 2014
                                      • 103
                                      • CANADA

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

                                      hi , ive read this thread is resolved , i have this tv , mine blowed main psu fuse , blowed 2 smd switching mosfet st14n50n wich i replaced by 2 21NM60N to-247 ,added some hole to the board to fit them and 2 small heatsink ( just to be sure), tested it with a 3A fuse insead of 5 to let anychance if the primary goes wrong ,and cap filled up , primary circuit are alive but no standby , after some visual inspection , i have find ICM871 chipped out (circled in red on the budM pic ) the only thing left its the dye , did anyone can help me to find the value of this transistor , maybe if im lucky , its the same as icm801 marked 3A ( circled in yellow ) , but , can't moove without be sure
                                      thanks
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                                      Last edited by Jeff Pepin; 08-27-2017, 04:10 PM.

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                                      • Jeff Pepin
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Jun 2014
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                                        • CANADA

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung un58h5202af no power..no clicks or lights

                                        he! good news!! ( At least for me)

                                        a friend have same tv and it permitted me to take an eye on his psu board , found that ICM871 is the same as 801 , marked 3A , and look like general pnp transistor with first finding ,. lets hope mainboard are ok lol

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