Samsung TV LE32M87BD image issue, turns off by itself, works perfectly after warm up

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  • dskall
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2016
    • 2905
    • usa

    #61
    Re: Samsung TV LE32M87BD image issue, turns off by itself, works perfectly after warm

    Are you losing ON/OFF voltage as it cycles?
    I assume no responsibility for any stupid suggestions I might post.

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    • Leplus
      Member
      • Apr 2017
      • 47
      • Spain

      #62
      Re: Samsung TV LE32M87BD image issue, turns off by itself, works perfectly after warm

      Originally posted by dskall
      Are you losing ON/OFF voltage as it cycles?
      Yes, it goes to 0V for one-two seconds because tv powers off, and once it starts voltage goes to 3.41V right away.

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      • Leplus
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        • Apr 2017
        • 47
        • Spain

        #63
        Re: Samsung TV LE32M87BD image issue, turns off by itself, works perfectly after warm

        I just did an eeprom reset now but no result.

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        • Leplus
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          • Apr 2017
          • 47
          • Spain

          #64
          Re: Samsung TV LE32M87BD image issue, turns off by itself, works perfectly after warm

          New update:

          I tried cooling down mainly the main board with a manual fan xD (FML) and I can get the tv on.

          Now, without stopping, DTV mode image is perfect, no lines, BUT I can't find any channel, it tells me to check the antenna conexion. In RGB mode, the color pumping remains, and in AV mode image is perfect as always.

          Under the shield T5 labelled there are two chips with a sticky liguid and a square thing on top to refrigerate. Could it be a problem there?

          I don't know, Ill try to get a fan from a pc and narrow the problem down a little bit more later.

          Edit: I've attached some pictures, one half of a chip is dry
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          Last edited by Leplus; 04-22-2017, 09:41 AM.

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          • dskall
            Badcaps Legend
            • Oct 2016
            • 2905
            • usa

            #65
            Re: Samsung TV LE32M87BD image issue, turns off by itself, works perfectly after warm

            That board is a mess. Were the heat pads gone for those chips?
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            • Leplus
              Member
              • Apr 2017
              • 47
              • Spain

              #66
              Re: Samsung TV LE32M87BD image issue, turns off by itself, works perfectly after warm

              Originally posted by dskall
              That board is a mess. Were the heat pads gone for those chips?
              Those pads are on top of both chips (red circles in picture 1) touching all the time, they always were there, and the shield can't go any deeper, it's in its position already so I guess the pads are touching the chips.

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              • vinceroger69
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                • Mar 2012
                • 6714
                • uk

                #67
                Re: Samsung TV LE32M87BD image issue, turns off by itself, works perfectly after warm

                If this was my tv i would probably try to source a replacement mainboard as faults are hard to locate on any mainboard.

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                • Leplus
                  Member
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 47
                  • Spain

                  #68
                  Re: Samsung TV LE32M87BD image issue, turns off by itself, works perfectly after warm

                  Well, I bought a usb fan but I still can't keep the tv on all the time, or it's not relevant the temperature, i don't know.

                  Originally posted by vinceroger69
                  If this was my tv i would probably try to source a replacement mainboard as faults are hard to locate on any mainboard.
                  Yep, there are a couple on ebay around £35 + shipping but I want to be 100% sure that it's the main board and don't waste money.

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                  • dskall
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                    • Oct 2016
                    • 2905
                    • usa

                    #69
                    Re: Samsung TV LE32M87BD image issue, turns off by itself, works perfectly after warm

                    32" hard to justify spending to much on it.
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                    • Leplus
                      Member
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 47
                      • Spain

                      #70
                      Re: Samsung TV LE32M87BD image issue, turns off by itself, works perfectly after warm

                      Is there any way of turn the tv on with the mainboard disconnected? Like shorting some pins or anything, and check if the tv stays on only with the psu

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                      • dskall
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 2905
                        • usa

                        #71
                        Re: Samsung TV LE32M87BD image issue, turns off by itself, works perfectly after warm

                        You can force psu and backlights on
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                        • Leplus
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                          • Apr 2017
                          • 47
                          • Spain

                          #72
                          Re: Samsung TV LE32M87BD image issue, turns off by itself, works perfectly after warm

                          Originally posted by dskall
                          You can force psu and backlights on
                          How could I do that? Because as soon as I disconnect the mainboard, the led goes off and tv doesn't power up.

                          Update.

                          Now with the usb fan pointing to the shield area (removed) tv stays on again, i wasn't able last night. But as soon as I take the fan away the cycle begins, it doesn't admit any temperature.

                          Also, in dtv mode, when pressing one or two chips on the shield area, I can get the no signal image properly, because sometimes it freezes before the reboot. But in RGB the color pumping issue remains.

                          I will end up ordering the board anyway so we can voodoo this one looking for a solution XD. I'm opened to oven methods also if required xDDD

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                          • timoaito
                            New Member
                            • Dec 2016
                            • 2
                            • Finland

                            #73
                            Re: Samsung TV LE32M87BD image issue, turns off by itself, works perfectly after warm

                            I think You need to re-ball the BGA chips

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                            • Leplus
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                              • Apr 2017
                              • 47
                              • Spain

                              #74
                              Re: Samsung TV LE32M87BD image issue, turns off by itself, works perfectly after warm

                              Originally posted by timoaito
                              I think You need to re-ball the BGA chips
                              Yep, I'm also thinking about this solution, but obviously I prefer to get a board for that money.

                              Now I have a fan pointing to the shield (I can keep it) but in fact after several trials I think the critical point is the chip in the red circle: IC3101 IC-DECODER;STI5105,PBGA,324P,23x23mm,PLA

                              So, that is the final stage I think, with the usb fan like in the second pic:
                              - DTV mode no signal from the antenna
                              - Ext 1 (RGB), perfect image
                              - Ext 2 (AV), image pumping the colors
                              - HDMI 1, a bit cut at the bottom
                              - HDMI 2, perfect

                              Now I'm looking for buying a cheap pc fan and put it inside, more quiet, because the chinese one that I have now is like a drone in a room.

                              Is it possible to take the power from any point of the tv without stressing or anything (12DCV)?
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                              • Leplus
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                                • Apr 2017
                                • 47
                                • Spain

                                #75
                                Re: Samsung TV LE32M87BD image issue, turns off by itself, works perfectly after warm

                                Update.

                                Well, this is the final stage for this board. In the picture I'm showing the pc fan that I put on top of the shield, so now the tv stays on and I can watch ext 1/2 and hdmi. DTV is not possible.

                                I think I'll get a new board soon but for now, this is ok.
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