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  • HellasTechn1
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2015
    • 176
    • Greece

    #1

    Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

    Hello friends,

    I have this Samsung LE32B450C4W television that would blow the PSU main fuse when connected to MAINS.

    I found the bridge rectifier Shorted and a blown mosfet (QP802s K10A60) i replaced both (actually the K10A60 with a K15A60) and the mainboard comes on. I hear the startup sound but the backlight does not come on at all, not even for a second.
    A friend of mine with the same tv lend me his PSU (slightly different components than my) and so my samsung worked all right. So i know ccfl lamps are ok and that something else is wrong with my PSU. i have measured all capacitors and transistors (heat sink mounted) also i replaced the sem2006 but nothing changed.

    Any advice ?

    thank you so much !
  • jondoe
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Nov 2016
    • 547
    • UK

    #2
    Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

    Get some pictures of the top and bottom of the PSU up, part numbers for the board and voltages from the boards output.

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    • ReeceyBurger123
      Never Give Up !
      • May 2014
      • 7325
      • Britain

      #3
      Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

      Some voltage testing would be nice dont you think.....
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      • HellasTechn1
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2015
        • 176
        • Greece

        #4
        Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

        Will do both. thanks. Be back soon.

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        • HellasTechn1
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2015
          • 176
          • Greece

          #5
          Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

          I have taken pictures and measurements.

          Here is a table exactly as shown on the PCB but with the readings i got.

          as far as i can tell DET_5V is wrong and i am not sure about I-PWM and E-PWM.
          Attached Files
          Last edited by HellasTechn1; 01-17-2017, 09:49 AM.

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          • dick_barton
            Badcaps Legend
            • Aug 2015
            • 6642
            • Wales

            #6
            Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

            Check this out.
            Attached Files
            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #7
              Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

              Since the PFC Voltage booster MOSFET shorted out so more likely the PFC IC is also damaged.
              Do you have about 380 VDC between the two legs of the main filter cap when the TV power switch is activated?
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
              http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

              TV Factory reset codes listing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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              • Dumah Brazorf
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2013
                • 179
                • Italy

                #8
                Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

                Do you see image using a flashlight and ear audio?
                Check the resistance of the 2 ccfl trasformers.

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                • HellasTechn1
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 176
                  • Greece

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

                  Originally posted by budm
                  Since the PFC Voltage booster MOSFET shorted out so more likely the PFC IC is also damaged.
                  Do you have about 380 VDC between the two legs of the main filter cap when the TV power switch is activated?
                  At first i suspected theIC but now since mainboard is getting voltage does'n that mean that the ic is ok ?
                  I think that sice the ic is driving the transformer if it was bad then i would not be getting any voltage. Am i not thinking right ?

                  I get 300V on the cap when stby and 280V when mainboard is ON.

                  Originally posted by Dumah Brazorf
                  Do you see image using a flashlight and ear audio?
                  Check the resistance of the 2 ccfl trasformers.

                  CCFL's are good. I know that for sure and yes i can see picture with a flashlight. I will have to unsolder the transformers and check them.

                  Originally posted by dick_barton
                  Check this out.
                  Thank you. I think theese diodes are all right since i get voltage on the main filter cap.
                  I am sure i have checked them but i will check again just to make sure.
                  Last edited by HellasTechn1; 01-17-2017, 02:51 PM.

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                  • vinceroger69
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 6714
                    • uk

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

                    i would check/change the pfc ic 280 volts is too low as budm suggests should be 380vdc

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

                      Originally posted by HellasTechn1
                      At first i suspected theIC but now since mainboard is getting voltage does'n that mean that the ic is ok ?
                      I think that sice the ic is driving the transformer if it was bad then i would not be getting any voltage. Am i not thinking right ?

                      I get 300V on the cap when stby and 280V when mainboard is ON.




                      CCFL's are good. I know that for sure and yes i can see picture with a flashlight. I will have to unsolder the transformers and check them.


                      Thank you. I think theese diodes are all right since i get voltage on the main filter cap.
                      I am sure i have checked them but i will check again just to make sure.
                      The PFC Voltage booster is not working. When in standby, the DCV between the two legs of the cap should be = to 230 VAC x 1.414 = around 325 VDC, and when the PS-ON signal is present then the Voltage will get boosted up to >380V (but <400 VDC).
                      You should verify that for sure you only have 300 VDC on the cap, that is low for standby unless you incoming AC is low.
                      The lost of Boosted Voltage can be due to PFC IC is bad or not getting the VCC to run, or bad PFC Diode (check for leakage resistance) as shown in the PDF in post #6.
                      Last edited by budm; 01-17-2017, 03:08 PM.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

                        Some reading about PFC.
                        Attached Files
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • HellasTechn1
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 176
                          • Greece

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

                          Thanks i am getting into it right now ! I will get back as soon as i am done checking.

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                          • HellasTechn1
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 176
                            • Greece

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

                            Originally posted by budm
                            The PFC Voltage booster is not working.
                            One silly question just to make sure...

                            the PFC IC is the (FAN 7530) right ?
                            Last edited by HellasTechn1; 01-18-2017, 03:18 AM.

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                            • vinceroger69
                              Badcaps Legend
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 6714
                              • uk

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

                              yes thats the pfc controller ic

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                              • HellasTechn1
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2015
                                • 176
                                • Greece

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

                                I ordered the PFC chip and i should be getting it by saturday or monday.

                                After i get it and solder it i will report back the resaults.

                                Many thanks to all of you !!!

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                                • vinceroger69
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Mar 2012
                                  • 6714
                                  • uk

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

                                  did you check the diode as mentioned in post 6? if not i would test/replace it too.

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                                  • HellasTechn1
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Sep 2015
                                    • 176
                                    • Greece

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

                                    Yes i have. They are within specs. for example the 1N5408 gave me
                                    max reverse current 2na , breakdown voltage 663mv and capacitance 90pf
                                    Attached Files
                                    Last edited by HellasTechn1; 01-19-2017, 04:25 AM.

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                                    • dick_barton
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Aug 2015
                                      • 6642
                                      • Wales

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

                                      What dc voltages do you have on the following pins of SEM2006
                                      PIn 5 (DET) =
                                      Pin 14 (VCC) =
                                      Pin 17 (Fail) =
                                      Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                      • HellasTechn1
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Sep 2015
                                        • 176
                                        • Greece

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung LE32B450C4W bad PSU

                                        Ok. i havent checked theese but at the moment i have undoldered the PFC chip from the board and i am waiting for the new one so unless i re solder it on, i dont think i will be able to measure the sem2006.

                                        I think i may receive it tomorrow or saturday so i gess i will have to wait a bit.

                                        I will get back to you as soon as i have news !

                                        DET on the psu connector gave me 1v. i dont know if that is the same as sem2006 pin5
                                        Last edited by HellasTechn1; 01-19-2017, 10:21 AM.

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