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  • bman4
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    • Jul 2015
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    #1

    PN60E530 repair

    this tv power's on normal with sound but no picture or even a glow.

    the logic board has a 6 second blink.

    both y buffers tested good.

    power supply voltages are good.

    y main anomalies:

    i tested all diode quick and think they are all good but will go over it again.

    the big green resistor (R5083) is open below the pic ic (U5014).

    the two green vertical resistor's(R5028) (R5029) to the top right of the pic ic are open.

    the one vertical green resistor (R5027) to the left of pic ic is open.

    the vertical green resistor (R5140) at middle bottom right of pic ic is open.

    the big bottom right resistor(R5067) is open.

    the two big green resistors (R5084) R5097) at top left are good.

    the pink resistor (R5214) one near the pic ic is good

    the 2 fet's (RJP30H1)that are shorted at (05004) &(05005) to pins 1&3 are shorted to ground screw but not each of the three.

    the other fets to the right with same number do not show these anomalies.

    my pic ic at (U5014) only has 7 legs and the one someone recommend's using ICE3b0565with 8 legs for the repair.

    i will need the specks on the 3 106 blue caps at (c5162 (c5046) c5160)


    these are my y main board numbers.

    sicker no: (JB 859A A2 29M 1l9-AA2Z)
    model no : 60ef ym (1LAY)
    pcb no: LJ41-10162A
    rev no: r1.5 (12/01/20
    pba no: LJ92-01859A


    is this the same version of board that is repairable with the 3 blue caps and ICE3b0565.

    even if mine are good i would like to replace them because they are know to go bad.

    im going to order a new factory stock x and y main and was wondering if it would be best to replace the pic ic (U5014) to not have it just fail on me so im wasting more time repairing this tv.

    my x main had a short but have to test it again to confirm.

    sincerely,
    bman4
    Last edited by bman4; 04-13-2016, 09:32 PM.
  • bman4
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    • Jul 2015
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    #2
    Re: PN60E530 repair

    i just test all three blue caps with 2k ohms and they show number .4859
    im finding most of the red on are bad at the top.
    i tested till center left hole while looking at the back.
    i found one good red one in this center left hole section but resistors are all good
    all blue one on the right back are good.
    even if this method of testing with a meter on ohms.
    im going to get a capacitance meter tomorrow.
    found two bad red one's in the bottom right back but blue are good.
    all the pop top cabs are good.
    just found 2 bad 331k 1kv blue cap's cap's near the 2 blown fets.
    appears to be something with the output section of this board.
    center back right blue cap that looks like red next to red and both bad.
    good night,
    bman4
    Last edited by bman4; 04-14-2016, 12:52 AM.

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    • bman4
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      • Jul 2015
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      #3
      Re: PN60E530 repair

      i now only need help with the correct wattage of the resistors.

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      • bman4
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        • Jul 2015
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        #4
        Re: PN60E530 repair

        who thinks thinks this board is repairable?
        i can imagine it has protection for this type of failure.
        all diodes read good.
        only the two big green resistors get readings at the top right heat sink side.
        im hoping this high voltage surge didn't take out a unobtainable ic or parts.
        the low voltage blue 106 cap's = 10uf,50V and all get good readings.
        most red 222k 630v caps are bad but some good
        only 2 high voltage 1kv 331k blue caps got take out with the 2 fet's.
        im going to get esr and capacitance meter soon.

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        • dick_barton
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          • Aug 2015
          • 6643
          • Wales

          #5
          Re: PN60E530 repair

          Originally posted by bman4
          i now only need help with the correct wattage of the resistors.
          If you showed clear pictures of the resistors perhaps someone can help.
          Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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          • bman4
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            • Jul 2015
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            #6
            Re: PN60E530 repair

            Originally posted by dick_barton
            If you showed clear pictures of the resistors perhaps someone can help.
            i can get real pictures of mine later but this on one shop jimmy is identical.
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            • dick_barton
              Badcaps Legend
              • Aug 2015
              • 6643
              • Wales

              #7
              Re: PN60E530 repair

              R5027, 5028,5029, 5140 are all standing so cannot tell what value they are.
              R5083. If Yellow, Purple, Red, Silver = 4.7K 10%
              Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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              • bman4
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                • Jul 2015
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                #8
                Re: PN60E530 repair

                all standing resistors have same color bands.
                idk what side to start but i figure the band closet the the end.
                the first color closest to the end is red ,purple, yellow, dirty gold or kinda metallic brown.
                the two standing at the top seem bigger than all.
                the standing to the bottom right seems smaller or same size as top two.
                the last standing one in the right top corner is smaller than all of the above.
                i have local tech of 40 years that collect parts and he might be able to help.
                as soon as i get out there, possibly this Sunday, i will post the specs.
                i will get pics as soon as i get hold of cell phone.
                Last edited by bman4; 04-15-2016, 11:09 AM.

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                • dick_barton
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                  • Aug 2015
                  • 6643
                  • Wales

                  #9
                  Re: PN60E530 repair

                  Try this to calculate resistor values.

                  http://www.hobby-hour.com/electronic...calculator.php
                  Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                  • Alastair E
                    Chief Womble
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 1963
                    • U.K.

                    #10
                    Re: PN60E530 repair

                    So-4.7k, or 4700 ohms. This would read O/C on low-ohms range.

                    Whats a 'pic ic' ??

                    No PIC Processors on Sus boards that Ive ever seen!
                    TELEFIX

                    How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                    http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                    PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                    • bman4
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                      • Jul 2015
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                      #11
                      Re: PN60E530 repair

                      Originally posted by Alastair E
                      So-4.7k, or 4700 ohms. This would read O/C on low-ohms range.

                      Whats a 'pic ic' ??

                      No PIC Processors on Sus boards that Ive ever seen!
                      Originally posted by Alastair E
                      So-4.7k, or 4700 ohms. This would read O/C on low-ohms range.

                      Whats a 'pic ic' ??

                      No PIC Processors on Sus boards that Ive ever seen!

                      it's the basic shape like a pic ic.


                      the ic im talking about is located at (U5014) top center under the transformer with the three blue caps.

                      there was a post on this forum about this Bord or one like it being repaired with a different chip call ICE3b0565 and the 3 blue caps near it.

                      i think i could only find pictures that i couldn't read board numbers.

                      im going to read that post and see if i can get an info.

                      im going to buy 2 ysus & x sus board's a rebuild one until the new factory stock dies.

                      is there any higher quality components recommended that can replace all because we all know how cheep Samsung can get with there parts.

                      there is this version of fet RJP30H1 below in link that has a secondary common ground for heat sink and was thinking of just using a silicone insulator pad.

                      http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Renesas-RJP30...kAAOxyfS1R0AzZ

                      the buffer boards in this samsung are made from Panasonic buffer ic's and my own p50s30 is made from japan.

                      for the buffer to survive also show's Panasonic superiority compared to Samsung ysus

                      so i would obviously like to replace as man caps with Panasonic.

                      im going to rebuild the as many power supply caps as well.

                      i recently had a Samsung 32 i was working on for the grad parents and the main input cap was melted.

                      im guessing it's the reason of it's failure is because he had it set at 100 % or silicon lottery and poorly manufactured parts sorting them self's out.

                      it's because plasma screen and not the parts inside that can last for one hundred thousand hours.

                      common 50 cent or less for single parts in a once 2500 dollar plasma.



                      thanks for the help,
                      bman4
                      Last edited by bman4; 04-15-2016, 02:00 PM.

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                      • bman4
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                        • Jul 2015
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                        #12
                        Re: PN60E530 repair

                        just found damage on x main so ill be needing one of those as-well.

                        found 2 dead 102ks360v caps dead on front left center.

                        found 1 smd ((smk) (630) (226)) diode,fet looking component on back left top to have weird reading on 1 side.

                        found 2 igbt (fgpf4536) that don't pass continuity like the other 6 fgpf4536.

                        the continuity is passed from pin 1 ground and pin 3 pos witch is gate to em miter but not the other way around.

                        the top part numbers on (fgpf4536) are different but i guess they are all the same.

                        the ones that pass continuity are( (fgpf4536) set in front bottom left, front middle left and front right,the front top right dose not have this anomaly.

                        also 1 open vertical resistor in front top center, the front bottom right vertical resistor dose not show this anomaly.

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                        • bman4
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                          • Jul 2015
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                          #13
                          Re: PN60E530 repair

                          i just got a new y and main, x man and the tv works.

                          the new ymain has a crunchy voltage sound emitting from front top right.

                          i torqued each screw as much as possible.

                          the y main i got has had the 3 blue 106. caps replaced.

                          found some possibly different part number red 630v caps not to read on new y main either.

                          i found those big green resistors not to read on any ohm setting like others on my meter.

                          i wanted to test the 2 bad blue 1kv caps and 2 top left bottom igbt's but already powered the set up.

                          the other igbt's and other 1kv blue caps got reading in circuit.

                          i would be cool if i only had to replace 7 parts to get this old ymain going.


                          i noticed 2 630v caps on x main with different code on them don't read on either board.

                          my meter only goes down to 2k ohm when guide said use 1k.

                          im going to let it sit off over night b4 any testing.

                          old xmain might be good if those igbt anomaly of passing continuity is false.

                          my meter is old and might be damaged,time for a new one.

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                          • bman4
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                            • Jul 2015
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                            #14
                            Re: PN60E530 repair

                            Originally posted by Alastair E
                            So-4.7k, or 4700 ohms. This would read O/C on low-ohms range.

                            Whats a 'pic ic' ??

                            No PIC Processors on Sus boards that Ive ever seen!
                            i learned about a optocoupler in another post and believe this ic that looks like a pic ic is one.
                            Last edited by bman4; 04-19-2016, 02:00 PM.

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                            • bman4
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                              • Jul 2015
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                              #15
                              Re: PN60E530 repair

                              Originally posted by Alastair E
                              So-4.7k, or 4700 ohms. This would read O/C on low-ohms range.

                              Whats a 'pic ic' ??

                              No PIC Processors on Sus boards that Ive ever seen!
                              i think so because my meter wont read these,it only goes down to 2k ohm.

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                              • ReeceyBurger123
                                Never Give Up !
                                • May 2014
                                • 7325
                                • Britain

                                #16
                                Re: PN60E530 repair

                                Common issue on these is that Ic U5014 failing I have a E550 with same board intermittent image that Ic is failed.
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                                • Alastair E
                                  Chief Womble
                                  • Mar 2013
                                  • 1963
                                  • U.K.

                                  #17
                                  Re: PN60E530 repair

                                  E series Samsung PDP lasting 100,000 hours!

                                  Haha Pull the other one!--10,000 more like before mal-discharge gets so bad it'll be unwatchable!

                                  ONLY PDP's that could get close to this is Pioneer and Maybe Panasonic...

                                  My advice--Dont bother with all those (pointless) mods--Just fix it--And flog it quick!
                                  Last edited by Alastair E; 04-19-2016, 04:32 PM.
                                  TELEFIX

                                  How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                                  http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                                  PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                                  • ReeceyBurger123
                                    Never Give Up !
                                    • May 2014
                                    • 7325
                                    • Britain

                                    #18
                                    Re: PN60E530 repair

                                    Too true Ali, absolute crap sets they look great when they work but fail in no time flat.
                                    Please Do Not PM My Page Asking For Help Badcaps Is The Place For Advise, Page Linked For Business Reasons Only. Anyone Doing So Will Be Banned Instantly !

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                                    • bman4
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                                      #19
                                      Re: PN60E530 repair

                                      i just found out that the tv was ran at half cell lighting,50% brightness and 100% contrast so i at least turned the contrast down to 80.

                                      Samsung built these boards so cheep and basic compared to others.

                                      i don't under how they can charge someone 2500 for this tv.

                                      it has Panasonic buffer ic's,could this mean it a Panasonic panel?

                                      dose that one thousand hour life expectancy of a panel increase if you have the setting's lower?

                                      this plasma is in for the long hull so i need it to last even if that means swapping the boards every time it goes down.

                                      im at least going to fix the old boards, i need to have backup's for when they fail again, so there is no down time.

                                      i can bet the replacement parts,even if the same i buy are going to be better than the mass produced junk Samsung buys.

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                                      • bman4
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                                        #20
                                        Re: PN60E530 repair

                                        is there any other x &y mains that are compatible with this set?
                                        i see a different better built board such as the one in the picture below.
                                        this was with searching PN60E530 on ebay.
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                                        Last edited by bman4; 04-20-2016, 09:12 AM.

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