RCA L32HD31 - Power led indicator but no display

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  • caphair
    Badcaps Legend
    • Nov 2011
    • 1249

    #21
    Re: RCA L32HD31 - Power led indicator but no display

    Sounds good ill run it like that and let them inform me if anything happens.

    I'm curious what did that fuse control? I'm having a hard time understanding the circuit. It looks like it went to the feedback of the ic, but the primary winding has two different windings. Are they both being run separately?

    Here's the link to the schematic
    https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...6&d=1375893777

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    • budm
      Badcaps Legend
      • Feb 2010
      • 40746
      • USA

      #22
      Re: RCA L32HD31 - Power led indicator but no display

      The fuse is just the protection for the power supply for the PFC and the SMPS ICs. Looking at the BOARD layout, it looks like it used for powering the PFC controller IC and the SMPS IC for the 12V/24V through switched Transistor Q11 which is turned on (by OPTO IC6-B which is turned on by transistor QS3) by PS-ON signal to the Base of QS3 (Q12 is setup as 12V linear regulator to supply VCC to the 2V/24V SMPS IC).
      The same AUX winding of the standby transformer is also fed to the other diode D82 for running the STBY IC once the circuit started up.
      If you look at most of the power supply for TV, the power supply for running the PFC and other SMPS section is generated by the AUX winding of the STBY Transformer through a switched device..
      Last edited by budm; 12-29-2015, 11:59 PM.
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      • caphair
        Badcaps Legend
        • Nov 2011
        • 1249

        #23
        Re: RCA L32HD31 - Power led indicator but no display

        Ah ok. Thing I'm stuck on is the AUX winding. How is it producing a separate signal from the primary winding? I'm thinking in simple terms how a transformer works. Primary induces voltage in secondary

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        • budm
          Badcaps Legend
          • Feb 2010
          • 40746
          • USA

          #24
          Re: RCA L32HD31 - Power led indicator but no display

          The STBY transformer has one primary winding where the drive is applied, and it has two secondary windings, one for making 5V, and another one for making the VCC for running the SMPS IC.
          Transformer can have more than two windings (primary, secondary) depends on how many outputs you want from the transformer,there are many form factor for the transformer windings.
          http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs...power-supplies
          http://jandkaudiodesign.blogspot.com...ansformer.html
          Last edited by budm; 12-30-2015, 04:19 PM.
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          • caphair
            Badcaps Legend
            • Nov 2011
            • 1249

            #25
            Re: RCA L32HD31 - Power led indicator but no display

            Ok but my confusion comes from seeing it on the schematic, it's showing the AUX on the primary side and in the circuit it's not on the secondary side of the board along with the 5vsb

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            • budm
              Badcaps Legend
              • Feb 2010
              • 40746
              • USA

              #26
              Re: RCA L32HD31 - Power led indicator but no display

              Originally posted by caphair
              Ok but my confusion comes from seeing it on the schematic, it's showing the AUX on the primary side and in the circuit it's not on the secondary side of the board along with the 5vsb
              The location of the winding in the schematic symbol can be made any way you want, in this case it is on the left to make it easier to see what this winding is being used for.
              Never stop learning
              Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

              Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

              Inverter testing using old CFL:
              http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

              Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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              TV Factory reset codes listing:
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              • caphair
                Badcaps Legend
                • Nov 2011
                • 1249

                #27
                Re: RCA L32HD31 - Power led indicator but no display

                Ok but even on the board it's how it looks in the schematic. So they can make a secondary side on the same side as primary?
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                • budm
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 40746
                  • USA

                  #28
                  Re: RCA L32HD31 - Power led indicator but no display

                  That AUX winding is being used in the dc primary side of the circuit to supply the voltage to run the SMPS ICs in the primary side, that is all so the two pins of the winding is located in the hot side of the circuit this will allow it to pass creepage/clearance for safety compliance testing..
                  Never stop learning
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                  Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                  Inverter testing using old CFL:
                  http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                  Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
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                  TV Factory reset codes listing:
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                  • caphair
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1249

                    #29
                    Re: RCA L32HD31 - Power led indicator but no display

                    I see. So are there two separate windings on the primary sharing the same core but only one is being pulsed?

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                    • budm
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40746
                      • USA

                      #30
                      Re: RCA L32HD31 - Power led indicator but no display

                      There are three windings, one of them being driven (primary winding is the one that is driven), the other two are the two output windings for two power supplies. They all sharing the same core. You can also use the transformer in reverse and use other windings as the drive winding. It is just a transformer and how you want to use them and what safety requirement you need. Do not get confuse about the primary side of the circuit (dc primary circuit after the bridge rectifier that is fed by the primary AC line power source) and the primary winding of the transformer. primary winding can be driven by the the cold side of the circuit, I.E. Inverter transformer.
                      Never stop learning
                      Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                      Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                      Inverter testing using old CFL:
                      http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                      Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                      http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                      TV Factory reset codes listing:
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