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  • jts1957
    Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 38

    #21
    Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

    1) People 'lie.'
    2) Check backlight controls and reduce any that are set at 100%.

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    • thoma
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Sep 2012
      • 268
      • Germany

      #22
      Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

      @jts1957
      'Diode' has TWO solder joints.
      'Lens' has THREE points securing.

      What do you mean with lens three points securing
      are there 2 points for anode or cathode and one for the other?
      Can you please explain this!
      regards thoma!

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      • caphair
        Badcaps Legend
        • Nov 2011
        • 1249

        #23
        Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

        @thoma

        Led has normal two leads soldered. The lens that's placed over the led is secured in place at three points.

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        • thoma
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Sep 2012
          • 268
          • Germany

          #24
          Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

          I know Led: Anode and cathode! is the third pin the lens mounted to ground
          or connected with Anode or cathode?
          I hope you know what I mean !Hope my Question is not stupid!
          regards thoma!

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          • caphair
            Badcaps Legend
            • Nov 2011
            • 1249

            #25
            Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

            Anode

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            • caphair
              Badcaps Legend
              • Nov 2011
              • 1249

              #26
              Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

              What I would like to know is how these are wired in series? Is each string being fed the same voltage from the strip on the side and they just tap in?

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              • budm
                Badcaps Legend
                • Feb 2010
                • 40746
                • USA

                #27
                Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

                The one in my pictures, each LED PCBA has 9 LEDs connected in series, then each PCBA are connected in series to form on big lonG LED string, that is why when one LED goes open circuit then whole string will no longer light up.
                There are only 2 pads/connection for each LED as you can see here:
                https://www.badcaps.net/forum/attach...3&d=1431830352
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                http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

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                • jts1957
                  Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 38

                  #28
                  Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

                  Originally posted by thoma
                  @jts1957
                  'Diode' has TWO solder joints.
                  'Lens' has THREE points securing.

                  What do you mean with lens three points securing
                  are there 2 points for anode or cathode and one for the other?
                  Can you please explain this!
                  regards thoma!
                  Lens has NO electrical contacts. Has three plastic pins that go through the board and are melted / crimped over from back side to secure.

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                  • thoma
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 268
                    • Germany

                    #29
                    Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

                    Thank you to all!
                    @budm it is like in the real life a picture says more than thousend words!
                    regards thoma!

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                    • caphair
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1249

                      #30
                      Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

                      Does anyone know if most manufacturers are using the same LEDs? Are there replacement LEDs available anywhere?

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                      • budm
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 40746
                        • USA

                        #31
                        Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

                        These may work:
                        http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...8CT-ND/3748977
                        http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...7-1-ND/2164128
                        http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...8-1-ND/2164129
                        http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...7-1-ND/5731650




                        The 50~60mA rating will be too low, most of them run in 100mA range.
                        I did not order one of these to try yet to see how it works.
                        Edge lit may use OSRAM, not sure.
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                        Last edited by budm; 12-04-2015, 01:02 PM.
                        Never stop learning
                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                        • caphair
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 1249

                          #32
                          Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

                          Which ones have 50-60ma rating? Specs all said over 100ma max no?

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                          • budm
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 40746
                            • USA

                            #33
                            Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

                            Originally posted by caphair
                            Which ones have 50-60ma rating? Specs all said over 100ma max no?
                            50~60Ma will be too low, that is why the examples are over 100mA range.
                            Never stop learning
                            Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                            Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                            Inverter testing using old CFL:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                            Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                            http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                            TV Factory reset codes listing:
                            http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                            • Alastair E
                              Chief Womble
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 1963
                              • U.K.

                              #34
                              Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

                              I had a Technika--With a 40" Samsung panel--Exactly same layout with the LED's but the LED Driver-board is Inside the display-panel!

                              One LED was O/C, and two were S/C

                              These fixed--and yet another couldn't decide whether it was faulty or not--as it kept flashing at me!

                              I chopped up an LED strip/string I rescued from a similar design LG panel and using double-sided tape, stuck individual LED's in place over the dead LED--after its lens and SM chip had been ground away.

                              Lot of time and messing round--but sorted the problem.
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                              • ReeceyBurger123
                                Never Give Up !
                                • May 2014
                                • 7325
                                • Britain

                                #35
                                Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

                                Originally posted by Alastair E
                                I had a Technika--With a 40" Samsung panel--Exactly same layout with the LED's but the LED Driver-board is Inside the display-panel!

                                One LED was O/C, and two were S/C

                                These fixed--and yet another couldn't decide whether it was faulty or not--as it kept flashing at me!

                                I chopped up an LED strip/string I rescued from a similar design LG panel and using double-sided tape, stuck individual LED's in place over the dead LED--after its lens and SM chip had been ground away.

                                Lot of time and messing round--but sorted the problem.
                                What panel was it LTA400HM23 ?
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                                • caphair
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Nov 2011
                                  • 1249

                                  #36
                                  Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

                                  Would these work universally possibly?
                                  http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/261436600000
                                  http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/381477582411

                                  Not exactly sure what to look for for replacements. Do LEDs used in tvs have a part #?
                                  Last edited by caphair; 12-05-2015, 01:26 PM.

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                                  • Alastair E
                                    Chief Womble
                                    • Mar 2013
                                    • 1963
                                    • U.K.

                                    #37
                                    Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

                                    You need to look for 0.5W cold-white chip LED's They are 3.3V and 150mA nominal.
                                    Last edited by Alastair E; 12-05-2015, 01:48 PM.
                                    TELEFIX

                                    How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                                    http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                                    PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                                    • caphair
                                      Badcaps Legend
                                      • Nov 2011
                                      • 1249

                                      #38
                                      Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

                                      Budm is this tv still working? I'm curious the longevity of the LEDs after a couple fail.

                                      Also, could you use a resistor to simply replace an open led just to get the string going again?
                                      Last edited by caphair; 12-08-2015, 10:17 AM.

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                                      • budm
                                        Badcaps Legend
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 40746
                                        • USA

                                        #39
                                        Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

                                        I am still using it on my test bench to dvd and Video sources.
                                        I did not have a chance to try out the resistor in place in this Samsung.
                                        One thing is that the LEDs are driven by constant current source and the Vf on the LEDs will basically stay constant at around 3 ~3.3V, so when using the resistor in place when the current is reduced or increased the Vdrops on the resistor will vary with the amount of current so the total Vf of the string will vary and this may be detected by the protection circuit.
                                        Last edited by budm; 12-08-2015, 10:31 AM.
                                        Never stop learning
                                        Basic LCD TV and Monitor troubleshooting guides.
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...956#post305956

                                        Voltage Regulator (LDO) testing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...999#post300999

                                        Inverter testing using old CFL:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...er+testing+cfl

                                        Tear down pictures : Hit the ">" Show Albums and stories" on the left side
                                        http://s807.photobucket.com/user/budm/library/

                                        TV Factory reset codes listing:
                                        http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24809

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                                        • reyronaldo
                                          New Member
                                          • Mar 2017
                                          • 6
                                          • USA

                                          #40
                                          Re: Samsung UN32F5500 with bad LEDs

                                          Four (4) IN4007 diodes in series would be enough instead of 5, if you plan to have a 3.5v drop for every busted LED. Four diodes in series would be equal to 4 volts because each diode consumes 1 volt as forward voltage, so, 4 x 1 volt =5 volts. However, to be safer, if you don't know the exact voltage requirement of each LED, I suggest that you use 6 IN4007 LEDs = 6 volts for every busted LED for any brand of TVs. A TV backlight is usually rated at 3-6 volts. The current will have a maximum of 1000mA or 1A for a series of diodes (regulated), since, the maximum rating of IN4007 diode is 1A which is safe enough for the common 200-500mA current supply by the TV LED driver. Hope this helps. Any suggestion?

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