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  • YeOldeGinge
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    • Nov 2014
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    • Telford and Wrekin

    #1

    Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

    Hi, People

    I have a Samsung 50" Plasma TV which will not power when I plug it in it makes a few clicking noises and the power light appears then when I click the power button it begins to flash 5 times then the light goes out as shown in the video.

    I have visually checked all the caps by eye and none look blown.

    If anyone could tell me what the problem and maybe how to fix it it would me much appreciated.

    I have a good general knowledge when it comes to electrical devices and have fixed TVs before but this TV has baffled me.

    TV's Details
    Make: Samsung
    Model: PS-50Q97HD
    Model Code: PS-50Q97HDX/XEU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2dDgHRnLg
  • sordids999
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    • May 2013
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    • uk

    #2
    Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

    Check to see if you have Vs + Va voltages on the power supply and also check for cold solder joints had a similar problem today

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    • YeOldeGinge
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      #3
      Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

      OK, would i have the TV plugged in while checking them and what setting on the multimeter should I use?

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      • sordids999
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        • May 2013
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        #4
        Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

        Yes but be careful what your touching !
        on the panel should be a sticker giving you what the voltage readings Vs Va should be use the test points on the power supply marked up Vs Va set your meter to DC 600 volts use black lead on panel chassis then red lead to test

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        • YeOldeGinge
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          • Nov 2014
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          #5
          Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

          Ok ther is VA-TP and VS-TP are they the ones I should test

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          • sordids999
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            • May 2013
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            #6
            Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

            yes

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            • YeOldeGinge
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              #7
              Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

              OK thanks i will get back to you in a second

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              • YeOldeGinge
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                #8
                Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

                Right for VS it was between 200V to 215V and I measured 206V and for VA it was between 60V to 66V and I measured 63V.

                what does that tell you ?

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                • sordids999
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                  • May 2013
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                  #9
                  Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

                  While your testing voltages you could also test Vsc and Ve but i would also check the under side of the power supply also for any damage etc but leave the tv powered off for at least 15 mins before handling the power supply
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                  • YeOldeGinge
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                    #10
                    Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

                    Right I have just measured VE at 94V and i have not been able to fine VSC are you able to send a more detailed picture? if not its fine a description will be as good

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                    • sordids999
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                      • May 2013
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                      #11
                      Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

                      Picture uploaded but i would also check for Q801 & Q802 on the underside of the power supply which if i remember its a common fault on these models
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                      • sordids999
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                        • May 2013
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                        #12
                        Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

                        https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=39514 see here also

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                        • YeOldeGinge
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                          #13
                          Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

                          Right I have just measured the VSC and it starts at 170+V and slowly decreases voltage i am just waiting for the bored to discharge so that i can check the q801 and q802

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                          • YeOldeGinge
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                            #14
                            Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

                            Anyone have any idea what could be wrong with my TV? could really do with some help! :P

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                            • Alastair E
                              Chief Womble
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 1963
                              • U.K.

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

                              Is there a tiny green LED lit on the Y-SUS board, (in bottom right hand part) when the set is turned on....?
                              TELEFIX

                              How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                              http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                              PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                              • YeOldeGinge
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                                #16
                                Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

                                Is this the light you are talking about?
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                                • YeOldeGinge
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                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

                                  Help me!

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                                  • tom66
                                    EVs Rule
                                    • Apr 2011
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                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

                                    LED lit = fault on Y-main
                                    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                                    For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                                    • YeOldeGinge
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                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

                                      What do you think the problem might be?

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                                      • Alastair E
                                        Chief Womble
                                        • Mar 2013
                                        • 1963
                                        • U.K.

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung 50" TV PS-50Q97HD wont turn on

                                        The Y-SUS is in 'Protection-Mode' hence that LED.

                                        The protection circuit monitors three things. The ERC circuit, the VSCC and summit else that I cant recall...

                                        I have one exactly the same--and same fault. Spent probably 50 or 60 hours on it, and no progress. Many parts replaced, no obvious faults. I'm suspecting one of the ERC or other MOSFETS/IGBT's is O/C....

                                        This fault (If the same fault as mine--and Ive seen two Y-SUS with this fault)--Unless you stumble on it is NO quickie.

                                        Replacement Y-SUS (05120A) are expensive and in short supply.

                                        First off for yours--Check for shorts on all the silicon power-devices of the Y-SUS, also check the small fuses on the supplies to the DC/DC converter stage--Thats the part the protection circuit shuts down via a quad-comparator....
                                        Last edited by Alastair E; 04-03-2015, 03:14 PM.
                                        TELEFIX

                                        How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                                        http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                                        PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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