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    LG 32", 32PG6000 Plasma keeps blowing IGBT's intermittently

    I have this rather smart 32" Plasma set. It was dead, cycling from standby/on then standby every second or so.

    Checks revealed short IGBT's on the Combined X/Y SUS board. (That tiny 'X-SUS' isnt really anything more than two diodes and a couple of caps)

    Its the X-SUS part of the circuit thats failing. Q603 and Q604 'Sus-Up' and Q18, Z-Ramp that go short-circuit. These are GT30F122, a 30A 300V IGBT by Toshiba.
    I replaced these with the GT45F122, a 45A 300V IGBT by Toshiba. Both these parts are designed for PDP service, and not had issues subbing these in the past for the 30A version....

    First time round, after replacement, the set ran for 15 minutes, then all three short again.

    After that, I de-cased the panel and checked very closely for any abnormalities of the display surface, Spots or burns, and the Mylar connections/tabs to the panel. All appears fine.

    After much testing and a few caps replaced/dry-joints resoldered etc and the three replaced again, along with a 2.2 ohm resistor this time that had also failed, (R22, supply from Vs to the 'VSC' inverter amongst other things) the set ran fine for firstly 1 hour, then next day for three hours, then turned off off for 10 minutes and then on again for another 3 or 4 hours.

    This morning, set ran for an hour or so, then again a small 'Tick' and no picture followed by the PSU relay and back to standby.

    Checks again show the same three IGBT's short-circuit. When working, the set gave a good picture although the black-level was a little high for a plasma, but not really objectionable.

    The three IGBT's are connected, first two in parallel fed from Vs, the sources of these to the drain of the Z-Ramp one, and the joint between 'em to the ERC coil, and by the multi-way thick leads over to the Z-SUS diode-board attached to the Z-tabs.....

    I'm thinking somehow the timing/drive to these is failing/corrupted for an instant leading to shoot-through and shorting....

    Any ideas what would be causing this...?
    TELEFIX

    How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
    http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
    PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

    #2
    Re: LG 32", 32PG6000 Plasma keeps blowing IGBT's intermittently

    When you replaced the IGBTs, did you also replace the driver ICs for them?
    What voltage is Vzbias set to? Is it matching the panel setting?
    If Vsc resistor is bad, are you sure the Z-side only is affected? (Vsc is only for Y-side)
    Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
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      #3
      Re: LG 32", 32PG6000 Plasma keeps blowing IGBT's intermittently

      I didn't replace the three-legged driver devices. Difficult to tell what they are, I Think Transistors due to the test-readings

      VZBias isn't settable. There's only two presets on the board, Set_Up and SET_Dn, VZBias was correct, as was all voltages.

      I think the resistor failed when the Vs collapsed suddenly due to the short, and the de-coupling-cap the other side of it fed it with sufficient energy to kill it. It wasn't burned or even marked, just O/C.

      This time round, its still OK
      TELEFIX

      How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
      http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
      PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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        #4
        Re: LG 32", 32PG6000 Plasma keeps blowing IGBT's intermittently

        So,--Ive now replaced the two driver-transistors that drive the pair of SUS_Up IGBTS.
        --These are an NPN and a PNP with both emitters and base connected together.

        Ive also replaced the Tiny transistor that drives the Z-Ramp IGBT. and checked all the small diodes etc in the network around it.

        Any more suspects....?
        TELEFIX

        How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
        http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
        PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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          #5
          Re: LG 32", 32PG6000 Plasma keeps blowing IGBT's intermittently

          The IC which drives those NPN/PNP transistors can also be suspect.
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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            #6
            Re: LG 32", 32PG6000 Plasma keeps blowing IGBT's intermittently

            Ah--OK, I can replace that one no probs, IRS2106, High/Low side Gate driver chip.

            But--There's another, weird thing, (That drives the Ramp IGBT via this network and transistor)
            --Seen them in practically every plasma set, its a SOIC 08 package--But is three times the height from the board to top, a fat little bugger marked, 35H817.
            --theres various versions it seems, like 34H807 (which is the closest I can find on a board,) and nothing on the web about 'em....

            I always assumed they were 'dual opto-couplers'--if such a thing exists....

            I might as well replace this thing as well, before killing another £12 of IGBTs......

            Any ideas what these things are?
            TELEFIX

            How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
            http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
            PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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              #7
              Re: LG 32", 32PG6000 Plasma keeps blowing IGBT's intermittently

              It will be some kind of optoisolator. It is odd for a Z-ramp FET to be driven with an opto though. It will be driven normally via a simple gate driver with a gate-drain capacitor to limit the slew rate.
              Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
              For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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