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  • tw2005
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    I was hoping you would get all those boards, sounds similar problem to the Samsungs, with the Z & Y chained, maybe the zsus took out the Y or you missed something on the buffers.

    Sorry to here this went bad.

    See how Brentsky goes with the Zenith, I think he ordered all those boards.

    The PSU voltages checked out OK when you had it staying on?
    Last edited by tw2005; 11-04-2013, 12:24 PM.

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  • aasnowskate
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    I got the new YSUS. Put it in and got the same result. When I first plugged it in, the YSUS made a different noise like something burnt out. When I unplugg the Ysus, I have audio, in the form of static noise. I don't know what to think.

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  • aasnowskate
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    Thanks for that TW. I ordered it through the link you sent me. For $30 it is worth getting it and if it doens't work, I will be able to resell it.
    Thanks for all the help. I will post my results when I receive the board.

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  • tw2005
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    You may like this I found , reclaimed $30 and they state the 9801 board will work and another.

    http://www.encompassparts.com/item/8...t_Pcb_Assembly

    http://www.encompassparts.com/item/8...vtp_Board_Assy

    http://www.encompassparts.com/item/8...1/Ydrvbt_Board

    http://www.encompassparts.com/item/8...40301/Zsus_Pcb

    Just over a $100 for all if I'm seeing right>
    Last edited by tw2005; 10-29-2013, 09:54 AM.

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  • tw2005
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    sears $110 http://www.searspartsdirect.com/part...rt=EBR63039802

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  • tw2005
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    LG here in Aust, http://www.electronicmarket.com.au/5...5735_5736.html

    freight would kill it but the US being such a huge market I'd expect a similar price and a website that retails these too?

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  • tw2005
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    Originally posted by aasnowskate
    It does charge up at 1400 ohms and change to open with the DMM. When I use an analog meter from Ground black probe to VS red probe I get 10000 ohms steady.
    This is my DMM , old fluke 73 auto range.

    Initially 300K, take off and on again, 2.8meg

    In diode mode it simply charges starts at 0.4, continues just past 2 and goes OL.

    Short Vs and gnd pins and see if the result is similar to mine.

    gnd-Va I get 4.1meg, diode similar to Vs 0.4 - 2 then OL, won't repeat unless Va and gnd are shorted to discharge cct.

    gnd-15V beeps initially but charges to 0.95, resistance is all over, starts low , k ohms then jumps to 2-300k then lift off and on goes to 2-3meg.

    There's a couple of pico fuses, not sure if they're worth checking.

    I can see myself looking a bit silly here, if these don't present a dead short somewhere and fail in some other manner.

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  • aasnowskate
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    It does charge up at 1400 ohms and change to open with the DMM. When I use an analog meter from Ground black probe to VS red probe I get 10000 ohms steady.

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  • aasnowskate
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    I just found the EBR63039801 on Ebay for $96. Where are you looking? I am not sure if the 801 will work or not. I emailed the seller, we will see. I have to go out of the shop for a bit. Let me know if you find anything and where I am looking for the resistances. Thanks for all your help so far TW2005.
    I will look a little more for the board.

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  • tw2005
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    Originally posted by aasnowskate
    Am I measuring VS to Ground?
    Start there, it may charge up and change. Just let me know the steady figure and which way you have the probes. Is it a quality meter you have ?

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  • tw2005
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    You sure about the price? I see cheaper and brand new here $70 plus freight from LG! And we're usually the ones that get ripped.

    Are there any LG direct parts sites in the US?

    I suspect EBR63039801 , EBR63039802, both will work

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  • aasnowskate
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    Am I measuring VS to Ground?

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  • tw2005
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    Geez, you're kidding. They must be in high demand.

    I'd check Ysus and Zsus in case. Pick a point I guess. measure the resistances on the power connectors on the YSUS and post. I've got my board here, it's getting late so I'll hang on otherwise it'll be tomorrow .

    Don't know much about these, tried a Samsung with chained boards at component level and gave up. ended up replacing the 3 boards at once.

    Did you try Tom's control board test bypassing the main to see if the panel fired up?

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  • aasnowskate
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    Thanks for the info. That service manual and block diagram from Tom came up for me. I did the light bulb test on the power supply just to rule that out and it worked fine. It kept the lights on for several minutes.
    I also checked the two buffer boards coming off the P212 connector from the YSus. I checked them for shorts and found none. I am thinking it is the YSUS. I don't have a scope to check the YSUS like it says to do in the manual. Is there anything you think I could check with a DMM before ordering the YSUS board?
    The least expensive one I can find is $175 on ebay.

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  • tom66
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    Block diagram may help too


    As might alignment details for panels, including PDP50T1 in this set.

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  • tw2005
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    2 free downloads per 24hr

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  • tw2005
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    It's compressed with winrar. I can find the link for direct download for you, once these get to the size limit I have to use RAR so the forum takes the upload.

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  • aasnowskate
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    I can't view the training manual you posted in the Zenith post. Is there another link to it? My computer will not allow it to open.

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  • aasnowskate
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    Thanks for the reply. I will check the resistances and get back to you.

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  • tw2005
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    Did you find the zenith 50pj240 post? Sounds familiar though he's yet to get it going and check out the sustains and buffer boards. There's a training guide I uploaded for your model. The ysus and zsus power are chained which I hate for fault finding.

    All I can suggest is to check Ysus,Zsus & buffers and see if anything is shorted. Maybe measure the resistances at the power connectors e.g Vsus etc.

    I have a full set of boards for comparison for this one.

    The training guide has some good info and checks in it.

    Z50PJ240
    Last edited by tw2005; 10-28-2013, 03:05 PM.

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