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  • takara
    Member
    • May 2013
    • 19
    • france

    #1

    plasma tv out of service

    hello,

    I own a plasma tv which does not work now . the sound is ok but display is dark like a photographic film. I found the -Vy voltage in the Y-sustain board has between 0 and -6 volt. I heard this problem could be provoked by the inverter into the board.

    I will appréciate some help to fix this failure.
  • tom66
    EVs Rule
    • Apr 2011
    • 32560
    • UK

    #2
    Re: plasma tv out of service

    Can we see a picture of the problem?
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    • takara
      Member
      • May 2013
      • 19
      • france

      #3
      Re: plasma tv out of service

      hello,

      I can send a picture of the probleme. I forgot to announce the model of my TV plasma : PDP42V7

      regards,
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      • tom66
        EVs Rule
        • Apr 2011
        • 32560
        • UK

        #4
        Re: plasma tv out of service

        That does look a little like low -Vy might cause that. -Vy can sometimes be brought down by a bad buffer board.
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        • takara
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          • May 2013
          • 19
          • france

          #5
          Re: plasma tv out of service

          hello Tom66,

          thank you for your reply. you suggest to check the buffer board but I do not kown where is it located on the tv.As I said previously, I read a book which shows an inverter producing this famous -Vy voltage. This inverter is surrounded by a optocopler, transistor an IC model NCP1200D6 and 4 condensators.

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          • tom66
            EVs Rule
            • Apr 2011
            • 32560
            • UK

            #6
            Re: plasma tv out of service

            Can we see a picture of the boards in your TV. I will highlight the buffer board.
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            • takara
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              • May 2013
              • 19
              • france

              #7
              Re: plasma tv out of service

              please find below the picture showing the boards of the tv.
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              • takara
                Member
                • May 2013
                • 19
                • france

                #8
                Re: plasma tv out of service

                I read the specifications indicated behind the screen : the -Vy voltage must be at -95 volt.
                I've made also some measurements with the vsc, va and vs which are OK.

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                • tom66
                  EVs Rule
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 32560
                  • UK

                  #9
                  Re: plasma tv out of service

                  On your panel the buffers are on the left of the image. It's the boards that connect to the Y-sus where you measure the -Vy etc.
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                  • takara
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                    • May 2013
                    • 19
                    • france

                    #10
                    Re: plasma tv out of service

                    Hello tom66,

                    I have disconnected the buffers from the Ysys board but the Vy voltage is still the same (between 0 and 8 volt). it is not stable. Normally the specification for that is -95 volt.

                    In addition, I've forgot to tell you there is 0 volt at the Vsetup voltage. Normally the specification for that is 183 volt.

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                    • tom66
                      EVs Rule
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 32560
                      • UK

                      #11
                      Re: plasma tv out of service

                      You probably have a short somewhere on your board bringing down those voltages, but locating that will be tricky.
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                      • takara
                        Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 19
                        • france

                        #12
                        Re: plasma tv out of service

                        I noted that I heard a noise (Bzzzz) every 2 or 3 seconds near or under the IPM heatsink.
                        The IPM could be in short circuit even if the fuse is not blown ?

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                        • tom66
                          EVs Rule
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 32560
                          • UK

                          #13
                          Re: plasma tv out of service

                          That is possible, we have heard of buzzing IPMs before being dead.
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                          • takara
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                            • May 2013
                            • 19
                            • france

                            #14
                            Re: plasma tv out of service

                            thanks Tom66


                            Could I disconnect the control board connector from the Ysus board to test if I note some changes ?

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                            • tom66
                              EVs Rule
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 32560
                              • UK

                              #15
                              Re: plasma tv out of service

                              I'd expect no image at all...
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                              • takara
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                                • May 2013
                                • 19
                                • france

                                #16
                                Re: plasma tv out of service

                                you right !

                                I also wondering if the 2 mosfets STP9NK70ZFP which are attached with screw can bring down the Vy and Vsetup voltage. I cannot test them directly on the ysus board. I have to desolder them before.

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                                • tom66
                                  EVs Rule
                                  • Apr 2011
                                  • 32560
                                  • UK

                                  #17
                                  Re: plasma tv out of service

                                  Where are they, can you highlight them on a photo?
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                                  • takara
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                                    • May 2013
                                    • 19
                                    • france

                                    #18
                                    Re: plasma tv out of service

                                    hello

                                    yes I can highlight the 2 mosfets on the attached picture. There are located on the left hand side.

                                    Yesterday I made a mistake. I wanted to test the resistor R4 but I did a short circuit. The lead of my multimeter has touch one of the leg of this standard resistor R4 and the other leg of a cms resistor. A short circuit appeared and the 2 resistors became black. The tv switch off (stand by mode) automatically as a security position .

                                    The value on these resistor is still OK but now they are black

                                    Is the Ysus board out of service now because of this short circuit ?
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                                    • tom66
                                      EVs Rule
                                      • Apr 2011
                                      • 32560
                                      • UK

                                      #19
                                      Re: plasma tv out of service

                                      I suspect it had a fault previously, so you have only made it a little worse -- unfortunately, due to the lack of schematics for these boards, you may be stuck with trying to find a replacement board. The cost of repair may exceed the cost of a replacement.
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                                      • takara
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                                        • May 2013
                                        • 19
                                        • france

                                        #20
                                        Re: plasma tv out of service

                                        hello tom66,

                                        I have replaced the ipm but the problem is still there : no Vy voltage. In addition, there is no Vs voltage on the resistor R14 (please see the diagram attached).

                                        do you have any idea ?
                                        thanks
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