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  • jaxmoto
    Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 18

    #1

    Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

    I have done everything I can find in testing this thing, I'm at the limit of what I know how to do.

    Philips 42" LCD

    Bought this TV locally and was told it was knocked out by lightning along with a bunch of other stuff in an old lady's home, so her neighbor was selling off what he could.

    Fuse was blown and it immediately blows replacements.

    The only obvious damage is the resistor above the fuse which fried (second picture). The rings were fried off so I can't tell what it should be. It tests 5.14k, so it isn't open.

    I have tested the bridge rectifier using instructions here and elsewhere, everything checked out.

    I tried just checking resistance across the mosfets and everything seems to match up (from one to the next they match).

    The only thing I found is that about half of the diodes on the board show 0v in both directions, while the other half show OL/.55v.

    The first question would be if all the diodes in circuit should be testing properly, or if I actually have about 5 bad ones (these are all on the hot side).

    Secondly, where should I go from there?

    Thanks, pictures attached.
    Attached Files
  • budm
    Badcaps Legend
    • Feb 2010
    • 40746
    • USA

    #2
    Re: Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

    OK, please take good closed up pictures divide them into 4 or more sections so I can really see all the components, I will need both the top and the bottom sides.
    Is there a chassis number on the model number sticker? It will be something like:
    42PFL3603D/F7 L09.1
    You should also test the components off the board.
    Last edited by budm; 04-26-2013, 08:37 PM.
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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #3
      Re: Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

      R101A to me looks like it is the Class X safety discharge resistor. It is supposed to fail short circuit on failure (maybe becoming short at higher voltages, like a varistor), so it is failed. It should be of the order of 470k ohm to 2.2Meg ohm. Must have been a really bad failure to damage that, so there's probably more than one fault.

      It would also be good if we could get pics of the bottom of the board.
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • jaxmoto
        Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 18

        #4
        Re: Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

        Ok here are some more pictures. Like I said, all I know is that it supposedly was a lightning strike.

        I wouldn't put so much effort into it, but replacement power boards go for about $100 for this set.

        This is the best my camera can do.

        The chassis number shows LC8.1U LA
        Attached Files

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

          OK, that R101A looks to be a fusible resistor feeding the standby controller, so I figure the standby controller may be bad or one of those diodes in series could be bad too.
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • twbranch
            Mad Nerd
            • Oct 2012
            • 153
            • USA

            #6
            Re: Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

            In my experience a diode or transistor blown will cause fuses to blow immediately. Obviously it depends what the diode or transistor is being used for but I will second tom66 on this one.

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            • bigpapabooga
              New Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 5
              • United States

              #7
              Re: Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

              was this ever resolved? i have a similar prob

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              • running on empty
                New Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 1
                • US

                #8
                Re: Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

                I am looking for the value of R101A. Mine was charred and cannot tell the colors

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                • Chris15x
                  New Member
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 1
                  • United States

                  #9
                  Re: Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

                  If you are still looking, the resistor is the same as R2, 540 ohms.

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                  • sordids999
                    Badcaps Legend
                    • May 2013
                    • 2149
                    • uk

                    #10
                    Re: Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

                    hello

                    does anyone know the dimensions of the stand screws i have seemed to have misplaced them

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                    • andrew3968
                      New Member
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 4
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

                      Originally posted by Chris15x
                      If you are still looking, the resistor is the same as R2, 540 ohms.

                      Where to buy the resistor ? Can't find it anywhere to buy

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                      • tvtimmy
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 1160
                        • usa

                        #12
                        Re: Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

                        If the set keeps blowing fuses, replace u101.

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                        • andrew3968
                          New Member
                          • Oct 2016
                          • 4
                          • United States

                          #13
                          Re: Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

                          The fuse isn't blown at all. The resistor R101A is burnt . Have two swollen capacitors. Having a very hard time . Trying to buy the resistor 540 ohms . Only found 560 ohms

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                          • dick_barton
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 6642
                            • Wales

                            #14
                            Re: Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

                            For testing purposes you could series two resistors to get the value

                            270 + 270 = 540 Ohms
                            Last edited by dick_barton; 10-02-2016, 10:20 AM.
                            Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                            • andrew3968
                              New Member
                              • Oct 2016
                              • 4
                              • United States

                              #15
                              Re: Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

                              Originally posted by dick_barton
                              For testing purposes you could series two resistors to get the value

                              270 + 270 = 540 Ohms
                              But after testing it . Where would I find a 540 ohm resistor?

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                              • dick_barton
                                Badcaps Legend
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 6642
                                • Wales

                                #16
                                Re: Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

                                Try mouser and search for 540 Ohms in search box
                                Last edited by dick_barton; 10-02-2016, 12:08 PM.
                                Willing to help but I'm no expert.

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                                • andrew3968
                                  New Member
                                  • Oct 2016
                                  • 4
                                  • United States

                                  #17
                                  Re: Philips 42PFL3603D/F7 blowing fuses

                                  Originally posted by dick_barton
                                  Try mouser and search for 540 Ohms in search box
                                  Thank you checked it backordered till at least 11/23

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