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  • stephenhartley
    Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 21
    • United States

    #1

    Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

    Hello,

    I recently received this 50" Samsung Plasma TV PN50A400C2DXZA for free. Currently, when I plugin the device relays clicks on then off. Pressing the power button gives me the Samsung power on sound, the TV primes then glows steadily. Audio and side panel buttons function. I can see a flashing LED on the LJ41-05309A Logic-Main Board. I have done the 3-4 jumper test on the main board with no patterns being displayed on the screen.

    Both the Y-SUS and X-Main make a slight humming sound and seemingly get warm. I understand that a digital micrometer (DMM) is really a requirement to accurately diagnose where the fault might lie; however, I was wondering if there was anything I could without purchasing a DMM?
  • randtek
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2011
    • 280
    • US

    #2
    Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

    Not really. The parts that will cause your symptom are far more expensive than a hobbyist grade DMM. Without being able to test voltages on a plasma, you risk spending a lot of money guessing on parts. It would be wiser to buy a cheap DMM than to just start throwing parts at the thing, hoping you luck into the right one. (In my opinion)

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    • tom66
      EVs Rule
      • Apr 2011
      • 32560
      • UK

      #3
      Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

      Yes, you will need a good DMM on any TV repair.

      To do the 3-4 jumper test you must remove the LVDS cable from the main board. This cable goes to the control board.

      If the screen primes, it is very likely a main board issue.
      Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
      For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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      • stephenhartley
        Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 21
        • United States

        #4
        Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

        To be clear, what is meant by the priming of the screen?

        My current understanding is that the screen glows quickly, goes out, then comes back on with a steady glow. Is this correct?

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        • tom66
          EVs Rule
          • Apr 2011
          • 32560
          • UK

          #5
          Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

          Priming is the continuous, uninterrupted glowing of the screen. On newer plasmas it can be very faint, due to high contrast ratio.

          When the panel first turns on the control board will initialise it and erase any previous images or built up charge (image retention.) This may cause some flickering when first turned on and is completely normal. I've noticed Panasonic plasmas are the most discrete about this -- the screen only lightens slightly, then dims down, when first turned on, on an LG/Samsung you tend to see a few light flickers and some sparkling pixels.
          Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
          For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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          • stephenhartley
            Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 21
            • United States

            #6
            Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

            Ah okay. So the TV flickers then is primed (the glowing).

            With the LVDS removed from the main board and pins 3 & 4 jumped on the control board, no test patterns are generated on the panel (still primed)
            Last edited by stephenhartley; 04-06-2013, 03:42 PM.

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            • tom66
              EVs Rule
              • Apr 2011
              • 32560
              • UK

              #7
              Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

              You may have a bad control board then. Does the LED blink five times then pause for two seconds repeatedly, or is the blinking steady?
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              • stephenhartley
                Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 21
                • United States

                #8
                Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

                When I turn on the TV, LED1 lights up solid for like 1 second, while LED2 flashes steadily for as long as the TV is on.

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                • stephenhartley
                  Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 21
                  • United States

                  #9
                  Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

                  Here is a picture of the rear of the TV in question as well as the logic/control board.
                  Attached Files

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                  • tom66
                    EVs Rule
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 32560
                    • UK

                    #10
                    Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

                    I did a little research and it might be pins 1-2 for this model to do the test patterns.
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                    • stephenhartley
                      Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 21
                      • United States

                      #11
                      Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

                      No test patterns on any pin configuration.

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                      • tom66
                        EVs Rule
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 32560
                        • UK

                        #12
                        Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

                        OK then, one more thing to check. Along the bottom of the plasma panel there are two or three small boards. There should be a fuse, a little like this, on one:
                        http://www.newark.com/productimages/...rd/4556386.jpg

                        You will need a DMM: Measure the voltage on both ends. If it's near 0V on one end, the fuse may be failed. There is a chance this means the plasma panel is defective and repairs beyond replacing the fuse should not be attempted. If the fuse is good, it is probably the control board that is faulty. We had a user on this forum have that fuse blow, they replaced it and it worked fine again. Same symptoms.
                        Please do not PM me with questions! Questions via PM will not be answered. Post on the forums instead!
                        For service manual, schematic, boardview (board view), datasheet, cad - use our search.

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                        • stephenhartley
                          Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 21
                          • United States

                          #13
                          Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

                          Wild this DMM by craftsman be suitable to correctly diagnose the fault with my TV?

                          the DMM in question

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                          • Alastair E
                            Chief Womble
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 1963
                            • U.K.

                            #14
                            Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

                            Originally posted by stephenhartley
                            Wild this DMM by craftsman be suitable to correctly diagnose the fault with my TV?

                            the DMM in question
                            Yes--That'll do.

                            Its a little basic on the Ohms functions, but will be fine for what you need
                            TELEFIX

                            How PLASMA SCREENS WORK, X-SUS and Y-SUS what they do--
                            http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1088.pdf
                            PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME PRIVATELY FOR REPAIR ADVICE. QUESTIONS BELONG ON THE FORUM!

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                            • stephenhartley
                              Member
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 21
                              • United States

                              #15
                              Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

                              Okay. I purchased the aforementioned DMM. Where do I begin? I have never used a DMM before.

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                              • stephenhartley
                                Member
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 21
                                • United States

                                #16
                                Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

                                That small fuse doesn't cause the meter to beep, reads "1". All other fuses are okay, DMM beeps and I get a "0" reading.

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                                • stephenhartley
                                  Member
                                  • Apr 2013
                                  • 21
                                  • United States

                                  #17
                                  Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

                                  Also, what would cause this fuse to blow? Y-SUS Failure?

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                                  • stephenhartley
                                    Member
                                    • Apr 2013
                                    • 21
                                    • United States

                                    #18
                                    Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

                                    So, I decided to inspect those buffer boards closer, in particular, one stood out: PCB number LJ41-05512A has something that looked as though it could be burned, it's almost as if the solder is gone. Anyway, here are some photos:
                                    Attached Files

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                                    • stephenhartley
                                      Member
                                      • Apr 2013
                                      • 21
                                      • United States

                                      #19
                                      Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

                                      Bumping for opinions, advice. Thank you!

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                                      • LDSisHere
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • May 2012
                                        • 727
                                        • U.S.A.

                                        #20
                                        Re: Samsung Plasma PN50A400C2DXZA

                                        It looks like the capacitor burned up. You should check the resistance of the capacitor as it may be shorted. If your fuse is before this device, it could be what caused it to blow.

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