APC BACKUPS-RS550 not charging battery

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  • sam_sam_sam
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    Re: APC BACKUPS-RS550 not charging battery

    Dose this battery backup have a separate transformer in the case

    If you have track where the battery is suppose to get the power to charge the battery

    Will the unit work if you have it plugged in and remove the plug does what you have plug in the battery backup stay working you do have to have charged up batteries to do this test

    This is important that it will work in the backup mode because if not it might not be worth repairing it

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  • jinu_j
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    Need more help. Now i got a same model UPS to repair again, but this time found both the Fuse F1 blown and the chip TYN274PN ( IC7 ) physically damaged (blown). Considering the UPS was used for PC in a factory of sorts, assumed a power surge or voltage fluctuation had taken both out. So i replaced both the fuse and the chip. Now i am back to the similar problem you helped fix last time. Works perfectly on AC current but does not charge the battery.

    The fuse and IC7 are new (just replaced)
    Voltage on each capacitor is about 165V
    Voltage at C43 is about 1V
    I also checked the voltage across capacitor - C48 (left hand side top of IC7), which is supposed to show the reference voltage of IC7 and that is showing 5.85V correctly.

    The images post replacement of fuse and IC7 are attached. Any help point me in the right direction would help.
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    Last edited by jinu_j; 07-04-2020, 11:44 PM.

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  • sam_sam_sam
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    One more item that did not make it to the land fill

    Good work on this repair

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  • jinu_j
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    Finally the replacement TYN274PN came in today and i changed in and it started working fine. Thanks a lot for your help.

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  • sam_sam_sam
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    Yes this is the charging circuit

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  • jinu_j
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    Ok will replace this and get back. What should the ideal voltage be at C43?

    BUt i still dont get it, the UPS works fine, and will move to battery power when the mains go off and go back to main power when the mains come back. The only problem is once the mains come back the battery does not charge. Is the above component part of the charging circuit ?
    Last edited by jinu_j; 02-20-2020, 10:40 PM.

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  • sam_sam_sam
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    Probably I would just go ahead replace it

    It switching power regulator does not seem to be switching at all

    Here is the data sheet for this ic chip

    Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 02-20-2020, 05:17 PM.

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  • jinu_j
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    HI Sam

    Thanks for the guidance.

    All tests were conducted with the battery disconnected

    I checked the fuse F3 and that is fine, its not open
    There is voltage at the two capacitors (c50 and C51) about 165V each

    At C43 the behavior is very weird. when i disconnect the battery and check i see about 11.45V (which is same as the current battery voltage). So i short the terminals of the capcitor so that the capacitor discharges. Now when i check the voltage is near zero but very very gradually increasing at the rate of 5mV per second. Switching on or off the 230V mains has no impact on this behaviour. I cant understand how the voltage is increasing if the mains are off. After crossing 0.5V the rate at which voltage across the capacitor increases slows down further.

    So does this mean the IC is IC chip with the part number TYN274PN is bad ?? Any way to cross verify this ?


    Thanks once again

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  • sam_sam_sam
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    CAUTION you have line voltage at this section of this power supply so please be careful when taking voltage measurement ( 120 volts DC or higher )



    With out the battery installed

    First check the fuse just before the capacitors and ( IC7 )
    Also check to see if you have any voltage on those two capacitor if you have voltage on the capacitors
    ( then go to —> )

    Second

    Do you have voltage on ( C43 )

    If you do not have any voltage on ( C43 )
    Then replace the IC chip with the part number TYN274PN ( IC7 )

    Then go from there

    I do not see the start capacitor for this switching power regulator or then again some of them do not have one it does have one it is ( C45 )
    Last edited by sam_sam_sam; 02-19-2020, 04:55 PM.

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  • jinu_j
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    APC BACKUPS-RS550 not charging battery

    Hi Folks

    I have a APC BACKUPS-RS550. This was lying idle for over a year. Now when i checked it was not working (no power). Checked the battery and found it to be dead( zero Volts). So i replaced it with a new battery.

    Now it powers on and functions properly, but the battery does not charge so the UPS works till the battery voltage falls and then dies. I need to figure out why it is not charging. I checked the onboard fuses and it seems fine. The caps also dont seem to have any issues (atleast visually). can anyone help identify why it is failing to charge.

    The pic of the PCB is attached. Any adivce on how to troubleshoot the issue ?
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