Are these caps real or are fake LXY 1200uf@16volts

[sam_sam_sam]

I bought these caps from a surplus supplier I would like to know if theses are real or fakes
If they are real I will share where I got them from
A bag of ( 100 ) for ( $10.00)

[Khron]

Re: Are these caps real or are fake LXY 1200uf@16volts

They look pretty legit to me. The sleeve looks nicely centered around the body, and the vent stamp is thin & clean.
According to the datasheet and its proportions, i guess that's the 10x30mm can version.

https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...ee3c51807e.pdf

According to that, the one in the photo would seem to be from the 4th of october 2006(?)

[sam_sam_sam]

Re: Are these caps real or are fake LXY 1200uf@16volts

According to that, the one in the photo would seem to be from the 4th of october 2006(?)

Were they a good buy ?

[retiredcaps]

Re: Are these caps real or are fake LXY 1200uf@16volts

IMHO, 100 for $10 is a great buy assuming they are real. Some may feel differently about 10 year olds caps though.

Most of the stuff I fix today is other people's discarded items. As such, I have no idea what the past operating history is so I try to fix as cheaply as possible, but still do a competent job.

If an item I bought new died, then I would go to digikey/mouser and spend the extra few $$$ to ensure fresh and genuine caps.

PS. You can never have enough of these 1000uF/16V caps around. Many power supplies seem to use 12V. You could even use these 1200/16V on a 5V rail.

[sam_sam_sam]

Re: Are these caps real or are fake LXY 1200uf@16volts

Thanks for the info

[Khron]

Re: Are these caps real or are fake LXY 1200uf@16volts

Personally, i trust 10-15yo japanese caps waaaaaaaay more than brand new CapXons or Fuhjyyus

So, sam_sam_sam, what about the big reveal?

[sam_sam_sam]

Re: Are these caps real or are fake LXY 1200uf@16volts

Electronic GoldMine
http://www.goldmine-elec-products.co...?number=G21720

[Per Hansson]

Re: Are these caps real or are fake LXY 1200uf@16volts

Might want to have a look at the bung too.
Doing a Google image search for that capacitor I see there appear to exist some really well made fakes of it.
But I do agree that yours looks genuine.

This thread might come in handy if they are 10 years old:
https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=50530

[Behemot]

Re: Are these caps real or are fake LXY 1200uf@16volts

Yeah look real enough. Its obsolete series but for old electronics its OK. Besides having poor capacity per volume ratio, they have reasonable life and ESR/current ratings.

[Khron]

Re: Are these caps real or are fake LXY 1200uf@16volts

Not fair!!!

I just noticed...

"Merchandise can only be shipped to the following countries:
Australia
Canada
Hong Kong
Japan
Mexico
New Zealand
United States (including U.S. protectorates)

If your country is not on this list we will not be able to ship your order. There are no exceptions."

Bastards...

[sam_sam_sam]

Re: Are these caps real or are fake LXY 1200uf@16volts

Digi-Key has KZE 1200uf@16volts caps
100@$39.00

LXY 1200uf@16volt. 100@$38.88

I do not know if you have Digi-Key in Finland or not

[Khron]

Re: Are these caps real or are fake LXY 1200uf@16volts

No, we don't, but 10 cents for a good cap was reeeeeeally tempting

[Behemot]

Re: Are these caps real or are fake LXY 1200uf@16volts

I have much superior Chemi-Con KYB 1500/16 with close to double the capacity per volume (1500 uF in just D10x20 mm can), double the life (10000 hours), lower ESR (0.037) and higher current (1650 mA) for about 20 bucks/100 pcs.

You can forget right now about all those overpriced big-ass resellers…

[Wester547]

Re: Are these caps real or are fake LXY 1200uf@16volts

KYB is indeed an excellent value for the price and for its miniaturized can size and specs. I suppose it would depend upon the application, or how old the device being repaired is in any case. Very old PSUs for an example may be designed for higher ESR caps (closer to LXY), but for more recent PSUs, KYB would be a no-brainer. LXY does have better low-temperature characteristics as far as capacitance and ESR goes (and is rated for double the shelf life that KYB is), but I doubt many PSUs would run their caps at -10°C and if one is running their PSU 24/7 none of that matters (and KYB are high quality caps so the difference between them insofar as shelf life applies may be marginal at best).

[Behemot]

Re: Are these caps real or are fake LXY 1200uf@16volts

The difference is just 0.007 ohm or less than 19 % so actually it should be quite OK. And it comes with higher capacity the circuit shoudl handle that.

That's why I take the KYB here over KZN, KZM etc. For D10 16V+ the life is already 10000 hours but the ESR is not so low as for same capacity/size KZN or KZM.

The LXY/LXZ are indeed better for very low temps, but as noted, hardly anybody uses that.