Shame on you Corsair! (Capxon)

[ReeceyBurger123]

Re: Shame on you Corsair! (Capxon)

Than you either have very serious problem, or the PFC is off due to low real load and your meter shows crap. There is no way how this could draw 233 W, that's 186,4 W output with 80 % efficiency. The CPu with graphics take maybe 60 watts, the rest maybe also some 20 W. That's 100 W missing.

I will recheck it when I can get to that pc too many tvs in the way atm to get to it, I hope nothings wrong but thats what I recall tbh I dont think there is.
The blue light is the power button on the pc I have no way of retesting it untill he room is clean.

[Behemot]

Re: Shame on you Corsair! (Capxon)

Than you either have very serious problem, or the PFC is off due to low real load and your meter shows crap. There is no way how this could draw 233 W, that's 186,4 W output with 80 % efficiency. The CPu with graphics take maybe 60 watts, the rest maybe also some 20 W. That's 100 W missing.

[ReeceyBurger123]

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Is it 33 W? Cause 233 W is very wrong.

The cpu is 30w if thats what you mean, I measured it with my load tester the total watts the pc uses is 233w.

[Behemot]

Re: Shame on you Corsair! (Capxon)

Is it 33 W? Cause 233 W is very wrong.

[ReeceyBurger123]

Re: Shame on you Corsair! (Capxon)

Looks good These definitely need the good caps since the fan doesn't seem to rev up very much even when the load heavily increase. My cousin had one with a Core i3 overclocked to 4.4GHz and an overclocked 4870. I was amazed that the CapXon in there lasted 2 years powering that machine! I gave him a recapped Seasonic, because I didn't want those CapXon taking out his machine. What is yours powering?

All mine is powering is a amd sempron 145, 250gb 2.5" hdd, asus m5a78l motherboard with a gt210 gpu on uses around 233w I think is what I read on the meter I know im loosing out on efficiency but ohh well brough this new for the application so mares well use it.

[ReeceyBurger123]

Re: Shame on you Corsair! (Capxon)

Looks good These definitely need the good caps since the fan doesn't seem to rev up very much even when the load heavily increase. My cousin had one with a Core i3 overclocked to 4.4GHz and an overclocked 4870. I was amazed that the CapXon in there lasted 2 years powering that machine! I gave him a recapped Seasonic, because I didn't want those CapXon taking out his machine. What is yours powering?

Cheers mon, capxon I normally replace on site they are one of the worst caps ever. And corsair using them is just away to make more money on rma when the caps fails and cause the psu not to start lol

[Pentium4]

Re: Shame on you Corsair! (Capxon)

Looks good These definitely need the good caps since the fan doesn't seem to rev up very much even when the load heavily increase. My cousin had one with a Core i3 overclocked to 4.4GHz and an overclocked 4870. I was amazed that the CapXon in there lasted 2 years powering that machine! I gave him a recapped Seasonic, because I didn't want those CapXon taking out his machine. What is yours powering?

[ReeceyBurger123]

Re: Shame on you Corsair! (Capxon)

I recapped my cx430 that was in my htpc it has samxon gfs eww, it gets quite warm as well so I wanted them craps out, primary unit is a panasonic so I left it alone. I used rubycon, chemicon, panaonic, smaxon Rs been runnning great for months now....

[c_hegge]

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On this board I'm pretty sure the blame lies entirely with the caps themselves. It's a well known fact that NCC had problems with that series. They were often used interchangeably with equivalents from Rubycon, Panasonic and Nichicon, and only the ones with NCC KZG and KZJ failed.

But yah, some manufacturers did really stress their caps big time. The Dell SX280 was an example (Prescott CPU in an ultra small form factor case). It was very common to see those with cooked Rubycon and sometimes even Panny caps. About the only way to reliably fix one of those was to poly-mod.

[Stefan Payne]

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Yeah, that's what I meant...

The mainboard manufacturers did misuse some caps so that even the best quality caps available at that time are doomed. Either due to high ripplecurrent, high temperatures or both...

[User]

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Yeah, they'll fail pretty much anywhere. But on your board, they were doomed for a very early death being on the VRM low side, plus getting all the warm air coming off the CPU heatsink

Yep... Works good now...

[Pentium4]

Re: Shame on you Corsair! (Capxon)

Yeah, they'll fail pretty much anywhere. But on your board, they were doomed for a very early death being on the VRM low side, plus getting all the warm air coming off the CPU heatsink

[User]

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Problem is that you can never know if it was a bad quality cap or misuse, especially if caps are used in some kind of VRMs...

And that looks like it's a Socket 939 or even 754 board...

This was my old s 939 board that was laying around in my pile of old parts. The visibly bad KZJ failed long time ago I just never bothered fixing it since I was doing major upgrade. The reason I fixed is because I wanted to build gaming pc to play old win xp games.
The point is that KZJ and KZG have been known to fail under light use and we'll ventilated area.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb0sg8QavDI similarly what happened to this board.

[Behemot]

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KZE and KZH should have different electrolyte than KZG/KZJ. They are being used for many many years now in all kinds of power supplies, I do not know about a single failure.

[Stefan Payne]

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Speaking of UCC...I just recapped Old Gigabyte with bursted KZJ in it , yeah they certainly had bad batches for sure, but I personally had never seen bad KZE or KZH.

Problem is that you can never know if it was a bad quality cap or misuse, especially if caps are used in some kind of VRMs...

And that looks like it's a Socket 939 or even 754 board...

[junktv]

Re: Shame on you Corsair! (Capxon)

You'd shit if you seen the life my vx lives now. It's a nasty dirty world in that box.

[CapSwapper]

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the primary 220uF 400v Chemi-Con I yanked from the CX430 (rev. 2.3) is the SMQ series. It figures they would use the bottom series. It was also out of tolerance. it only measured 170uF. It just said "SMQ" on the front with no vertical markings. The Nichicon cap I replaced it was only 5% out. So if anybody buys the CX430 the primary cap might be way out of tolerance.

[c_hegge]

Re: Shame on you Corsair! (Capxon)

^
Yup. The KZM never failed in that thread. It was simply what was used to replace the bad one.

[lti]

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I remember some people from Corsair saying that Japanese caps would only be used in positions where caps would fail under warranty.

Also, if you look at this thread you'll see a 1000uF 16V 8x20 Chemi-con KZM bulge and the other 1000uF 16V 8x20 Chemi-con KZGs (on the VRM input of a Socket 754 board) look visibly okay (though a couple 6.3V ones failed as usual, and KZM is supposed to be the "long life" version of KZH).

The KZM looks like the replacement for a bad KZG. Only the three leaking KZGs were replaced, and KZE and KZM series caps were used.

[User]

Re: Shame on you Corsair! (Capxon)

Speaking of UCC...I just recapped Old Gigabyte with bursted KZJ in it , yeah they certainly had bad batches for sure, but I personally had never seen bad KZE or KZH.