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  • TheWizard
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    Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb.Inspiron 3593

    Took read of chip with wrong selected MB from programmer. The current BIN i have backed up is 128MB and it needs to fit on a 64mb chip. Is there an application that makes this easy to shink the BIN and keep all data intact? I am familiar with HeXHD. Any help would be appreciated.
    Last edited by SMDFlea; 12-21-2022, 03:42 PM. Reason: Added "Inspiron 3593" to thread title,moved thread to laptop bios requests sub forum
  • SMDFlea
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    Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb

    Originally posted by TheWizard
    Took read of chip with wrong selected MB from programmer. The current BIN i have backed up is 128MB and it needs to fit on a 64mb chip. Is there an application that makes this easy to shink the BIN and keep all data intact? I am familiar with HeXHD. Any help would be appreciated.
    The programmer might have read the chip twice,so the same 8MB of data following on, or 8MB of data followed by 8MB of zero`s or FF`s .If you havn`t already written anything to the chip or erased it its ok to read it again ,just choose the chip manually instead of using Auto-detect.Your backup can be edited to the right size with a hex editor. Is your programmer an EZP**** ,CH341A or something else ,and what is the motherboard model number
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    Last edited by SMDFlea; 11-01-2022, 04:34 PM.
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    • TheWizard
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      Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb

      SMDFlea,
      My sincere apologies for not getting back to you sooner. I was not expecting a reply so fast. Thank you! Update: The chip was already erased. So the original is lost other than what I have backed up on the 128MB BIN. The programmer I am using is a TL866II Plus. The backup is of the XMC 0H64AH1G chip from a LA-J081P motherboard. I can attach the original backup of the chip here if that helps? Any further assistance is greatly appreciated and I will monitor this post.

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      • TheWizard
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        Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb

        Here is the original 128MB BIN.
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        • hardware1
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          Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb

          Originally posted by TheWizard
          Here is the original 128MB BIN.
          Can you write your device model, and what was your main problem?
          As I can see, your 16MB file is duplicated, it has 2 similar 8MB files.
          Also you must have another 16MB bios file, because the Vscc Table shows 2 chips (8MB+16MB).
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          • TheWizard
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            Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb

            Sure thing. My buddy attempted to flash his BIOS on his Dell Inspiron 3593. The problem is he didnt have a power adapter connected at the time and his battery went dead in the middle of flash. He backed up the chips but used 128MB selection for the XMC chip. The other BIOS chip is all set. I was able to buy a new chip and flash that chip with the original BIN. Can you think of a way to shrink the BIN i uploaded to fit on a 64MB chip while at the same time keeping the data intact? I am not great with Hex Editors. Only familiar with HxD.

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            • hardware1
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              Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb

              Originally posted by TheWizard
              Sure thing. My buddy attempted to flash his BIOS on his Dell Inspiron 3593. The problem is he didnt have a power adapter connected at the time and his battery went dead in the middle of flash. He backed up the chips but used 128MB selection for the XMC chip. The other BIOS chip is all set. I was able to buy a new chip and flash that chip with the original BIN. Can you think of a way to shrink the BIN i uploaded to fit on a 64MB chip while at the same time keeping the data intact? I am not great with Hex Editors. Only familiar with HxD.
              You can open the file with HxD and select block from 0h to 800000h, that will be the half (8MB). If you select from 800000h to the end, it will be the same.
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              • TheWizard
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                Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb.Inspiron 3593

                Like this? Then you just delete the F's? I will flash the chip with the BIN you modified for me and provide an update. Thank you hardware1. Much appreciated!
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                Last edited by TheWizard; 12-21-2022, 04:07 PM.

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                • SMDFlea
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                  #9
                  Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb.Inspiron 3593

                  Originally posted by TheWizard
                  Like this? Then you just delete the F's? I will flash the chip with the BIN you modified for me and provide an update. Thank you hardware1. Much appreciated!
                  If you`re starting from 0 No, the length in hex should be 800000 , 0 - 7FFFFF .Why is that ? ,because the counting starts from 0 and not 1
                  If you were selecting the bottom 8MB of the 16MB it would start at 800000 and end at FFFFFF
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                  Last edited by SMDFlea; 12-21-2022, 04:51 PM.
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                  • TheWizard
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                    Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb.Inspiron 3593

                    Okay. Thank you for that explanation. Makes sense. I will keep you posted.

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                    • TheWizard
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                      Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb.Inspiron 3593

                      Okay i surface mount soldered the chip back, reassembled and now i have no power, no lights, no fan. Before the change, I had power and could boot to BIOS and Windows. Now nothing. The reason for flashing the XMC chip is to correct the Serial number. Could the deletion and downsizing messed with the prompt to boot? I have 19 volts coming in from the charger to the dc in. And 3.3 v going to the chip replaced. But after taking readings on the XMC chip, i switch to the Winbond and get 0v. Has to be the chips not talking to one another. Here is a pic of the solder work. Anything else we can try?
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                      • hardware1
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                        Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb.Inspiron 3593

                        Originally posted by TheWizard
                        Okay i surface mount soldered the chip back, reassembled and now i have no power, no lights, no fan. Before the change, I had power and could boot to BIOS and Windows. Now nothing. The reason for flashing the XMC chip is to correct the Serial number. Could the deletion and downsizing messed with the prompt to boot? I have 19 volts coming in from the charger to the dc in. And 3.3 v going to the chip replaced. But after taking readings on the XMC chip, i switch to the Winbond and get 0v. Has to be the chips not talking to one another. Here is a pic of the solder work. Anything else we can try?
                        I think the best way is to upload your both chips files (the first Backup anyway), write your device service tag and someone will try to help you.
                        Also write what was written on the top of your old chips and the new chips too.
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                        • TheWizard
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                          Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb.Inspiron 3593

                          Hardware1,
                          Okay sounds good. I will remove my Windows product key from the padding of the BIN for the first chip and replace with dummy product code prior to uploading. I will also compile and list the details of the chips. Will be uploading soon today. Thanks!

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                          • TheWizard
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                            Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb.Inspiron 3593

                            Hardware1,
                            Here are both original backups of the chips. I did notice that my buddy not only selected the wrong size to do the XMC chip backup. He also selected the wrong chip in the programmer. Both chips were backed up with the Windbond chip selection. the XMC chip should have been backed up by the programmer using "XM25Qh64A" but W25Q128JV was used in place. The Winbond chip is W25Q128JV. I will upload a follow up pic of both chips with their full descriptions. Thank you.
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                            Last edited by TheWizard; 12-22-2022, 07:34 AM.

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                            • hardware1
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                              Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb.Inspiron 3593

                              Originally posted by TheWizard
                              Hardware1,
                              Here are both original backups of the chips. I did notice that my buddy not only selected the wrong size to do the XMC chip backup. He also selected the wrong chip in the programmer. Both chips were backed up with the Windbond chip selection. the XMC chip should have been backed up by the programmer using "XM25Qh64A" but W25Q128JV was used in place. The Winbond chip is W25Q128JV. I will upload a follow up pic of both chips with their full descriptions. Thank you.
                              Here's your new bios files, try them.
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                              • TheWizard
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                                Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb.Inspiron 3593

                                Hardware1,
                                Do I have to remove both chips from the board again and re-flash both? The Winbond chip was working prior to the flash of the XMC. Can you elaborate a bit on your investigation and theory? Just trying to get a better grasp on this editing. Thank you.

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                                • hardware1
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                                  Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb.Inspiron 3593

                                  Originally posted by TheWizard
                                  Hardware1,
                                  Do I have to remove both chips from the board again and re-flash both? The Winbond chip was working prior to the flash of the XMC. Can you elaborate a bit on your investigation and theory? Just trying to get a better grasp on this editing. Thank you.
                                  Our goal is to make the device works fine, so yes the best way is to desolder the both chips and program them with the files which I uploaded.
                                  Your bios has fixed using the Bios Region that provided by Dell, then I cleaned the ME Region.
                                  If the files are compatible (and there is no other issues) the device will work, if not so you have nothing to lose because you already have the backup.
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                                  • TheWizard
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                                    Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb.Inspiron 3593

                                    Okay sounds good. I will update the Windows Product key on the modified BIN you provided in the padding for the Winbond chip prior to re-flashing. Anything else I am missing for steps? Thank you.
                                    Last edited by TheWizard; 12-22-2022, 10:51 AM.

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                                    • TheWizard
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                                      Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb.Inspiron 3593

                                      Hardware1,
                                      I flashed, mounted and reassembled. Machine boots to BIOS recovery screen but I am not able to recover the BIOS (using currently flashed BIOS). The other options are Rollback to previous BIOS or Load BIOS defaults. Should I just pick Load BIOS defaults?
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                                      Last edited by TheWizard; 12-22-2022, 12:55 PM.

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                                      • hardware1
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                                        Re: Need to shrink a 128 MB BIN to 64mb.Inspiron 3593

                                        Originally posted by TheWizard
                                        Hardware1,
                                        I flashed, mounted and reassembled. Machine boots to BIOS recovery screen but I am not able to recover the BIOS (using currently flashed BIOS). The other options are Rollback to previous BIOS or Load BIOS defaults. Should I just pick Load BIOS defaults?
                                        I'm really don't know, but you can upload a picture and maybe someone can help you.
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