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  • sebuncle
    Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 46
    • France

    #1

    BGA Replacement

    hello here is a table of compatibility for the replacement of nvidia chips

    ---- ---------- recommended-------possible
    G86-300-A2 --> G86-731-A2 --> G86-730-A2
    G86-302-A2 --> G86-731-A2 --> G86-730-A2
    G86-303-A2 --> G86-731-A2 --> G86-730-A2
    G86-602-A2--> G86-631-A2 --> G86-603-A2, G86-620-A2, G86-630-A2
    G86-603-A2--> G86-631-A2 --> G86-630-A2
    G86-620-A2--> G86-631-A2 --> G86-630-A2
    G86-625-A2--> G86-635-A2 --> G86-630-A2
    G86-630-A2--> G86-631-A2
    G86-631-A2--> G86-631-A2 --> G86-630-A2
    G86-635-A2--> G86-635-A2
    G86-703-A2--> G86-731-A2 --> G86-730-A2
    G86-730-A2--> G86-731-A2 --> G86-730-A2
    G86-731-A2--> G86-731-A2 --> G86-730-A2
    G86-740-A2--> G86-731-A2 --> G86-730-A2
    G86-750-A2--> G86-771-A2 --> G86-770-A2
    G86-770-A2--> G86-771-A2 --> G86-750-A2
    G86-771-A2--> G86-771-A2 --> G86-770-A2
    JOVY RE7500
  • japlytic
    Badcaps Legend
    • Oct 2005
    • 2086
    • Australia

    #2
    Re: BGA Replacement

    Welcome, sebuncle!

    BGA chips are a nightmare to work with (as well as troubleshoot) and require expensive equipment to remove them, as well as solder new ones in their place, which requires great skill.
    My first choice in quality Japanese electrolytics is Nippon Chemi-Con, which has been in business since 1931... the quality of electronics is dependent on the quality of the electrolytics.

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    • uligli
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2006
      • 139

      #3
      Re: BGA Replacement

      I tried to bake a Toshiba Tecra M3 (motherboard with 6200go) today, haha, fail...

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      • mockingbird
        Badcaps Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 5484
        • -

        #4
        Re: BGA Replacement

        BGA reballing can be done, I've seen how they do it, but a reball will cost you a lot, especially if the guy doesn't have the stencils. It's not as difficult as it looks, but someone here mentioned that it's not just the unleaded solder which is the problem with nVidia, it's also the fact that the die is missing heat dissipation metal.

        So what's the point of replacing the chip if you can just reflow it. Maybe the new one will last a little longer. Yesterday I did a reflow on a motherboard with nForce 6. It worked for as long as I needed it (Install Windows XP and flash my XBOX DVD) and will probably work for a few months more but I'm not using it in my system.

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        • sebuncle
          Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 46
          • France

          #5
          Re: BGA Replacement

          generally nvidia chips are defective.
          rebailling rarely repaired and motherboard will not accept too many firing cycles to solder and desoldering
          I prefer to change the chip as the reballing
          JOVY RE7500

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          • stj
            Great Sage 齊天大聖
            • Dec 2009
            • 30985
            • Albion

            #6
            Re: BGA Replacement

            you need to lower the core voltage and the clockspeed.

            they die because nvidia overclocked them to make the performance look better against ati chips.

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            • Per Hansson
              Super Moderator
              • Jul 2005
              • 5895
              • Sweden

              #7
              Re: BGA Replacement

              nVidia cards fail due to improper underfill used in the die itself, the BGA interconnect solder balls are also somewhat to blame, but the biggest problem is internal in the die

              sebuncle; are these BGA's you list using the new updated Hitachi Underfill? (That supposedly fix the problem)

              http://vr-zone.com/articles/3-year-o...resh/6515.html

              http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...hips-underfill
              "The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the one who is doing it."

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              • sebybc
                New Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 1
                • romania

                #8
                Re: BGA Replacement

                Hello,
                I just upgraded my HP DV9500 laptop motherboard. Originally had G86-730-A2 and 128 mb ddr2. I replaced the G86-730-A2 with G86-771-A2 wich is the newest version of G86. First time I didn't have signal on the lcd screen. Then I added four DDR2 chips on the non-populated locations of the motherboard. After that the laptop started normally. Now I have 256 MB on the video card that are also recognized by Windows. Hope that this experience will help somebody.

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                • scsblackdragon
                  New Member
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 7
                  • England

                  #9
                  Re: BGA Replacement

                  Do you have any information about the G84 series?

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                  • Ramee
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 218
                    • Israel

                    #10
                    Re: BGA Replacement

                    Your site contains Malware.
                    Do you have AliExpress store number?

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                    • dellxps15
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 1588
                      • italy

                      #11
                      Re: BGA Replacement

                      Originally posted by Ramee
                      Your site contains Malware.
                      Do you have AliExpress store number?
                      they are also on ebay.

                      for jessica: i always bought from your company and another one.

                      from your company i did some oerder and always got satisfied by my seller contact that suggested me always the best product and what to buy for 100% succcess.

                      ps: your ebay account doesnt have ship option to osme place and wont show up when someone search for a bga. already informed your company by skype

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                      • highpulse
                        i hate HP
                        • May 2013
                        • 1488
                        • portugal

                        #12
                        Re: BGA Replacement

                        uiiii m seee_IC????? great chip ?? humm lol ok !!!! dellxps , you have been lucky .

                        since see_ic is one of the best enterprises counterfaking chipset , if you got some skill chek a board with a original chipset , then look to they're chipset specially the laser write on each die !!!
                        buts that just an advise.

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                        • dellxps15
                          Badcaps Legend
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 1588
                          • italy

                          #13
                          Re: BGA Replacement

                          did u get fake chips ?

                          i bought mahy bga and they were ok. just some kb bulk was not good, but they sold me as bulk and not original.

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                          • gcomputers
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 509
                            • Albania

                            #14
                            Re: BGA Replacement

                            Hi BGA rework is my passion and now is my bussiness , 4 years ago i bought Jovy re7500,
                            now i have ZM-R6200 semi automatic . Important is to have right equipments.

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                            • highpulse
                              i hate HP
                              • May 2013
                              • 1488
                              • portugal

                              #15
                              Re: BGA Replacement

                              gcomputer , you can top edge equipments , if you dont have good electronic component you can put your automatic or semiautomatic to the garbage , because it will not save your work ! simples as that .
                              i also got the zuomau , and if a chip is not 100% ok , then nothing will save you.

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                              • highpulse
                                i hate HP
                                • May 2013
                                • 1488
                                • portugal

                                #16
                                Re: BGA Replacement

                                dellxps , yes a few times , even saying brand new chips , and we could notice very easily that the gpu were completely refurbished . and many times they were laser rewritable ..

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                                • highpulse
                                  i hate HP
                                  • May 2013
                                  • 1488
                                  • portugal

                                  #17
                                  Re: BGA Replacement

                                  if you want a trusting seller , ask him about the certificate for each chip

                                  and not company certificate ,,, because they dont make them ,, who make the chips give a certificate , if not certificate then ,,,removed frmo outher board or bought on bulks somewere else

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                                  • sasser
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Dec 2012
                                    • 364
                                    • Malaysia

                                    #18
                                    Re: BGA Replacement

                                    Anyone have try buy from golden chipset. I see there many latest bga datecode. Have store at ebay and aliexpress .
                                    I see the bga have 2015 datecode with leadfree balls. If latest manufacturer date then no need bake? Or bake procedure need to do to all bga?

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                                    • gcomputers
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Apr 2013
                                      • 509
                                      • Albania

                                      #19
                                      Re: BGA Replacement

                                      Originally posted by highpulse
                                      gcomputer , you can top edge equipments , if you dont have good electronic component you can put your automatic or semiautomatic to the garbage , because it will not save your work ! simples as that .
                                      i also got the zuomau , and if a chip is not 100% ok , then nothing will save you.
                                      I agree with you if the chip is dead the equipments cant do anything , but if you don t have the right equipments you cant be sure if the chip is dead or i have wrong the work (bga), with Jovy the mainboard and the chip buried during the process , only to stack the chip make 20 min , with Zm-r6200 take 2 minuts to stack the chip and no buried anything.


                                      Anyway the best s to replace with new chip.

                                      I buy from Chelison on aliexpress 2014 model .

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