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  • mgrharry
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Sep 2016
    • 211
    • usa

    #1

    Acer A515 Not Charging

    Acer A515 motherboard, part number DA0ZAWMB8G. Someone tripped over the charging cord and broke the DC jack. Jack has been repaired, but system still doesn't detect charger.

    19V is present on charger pin and drain of #1 mosfet but there is no voltage on the gate and source. There is 19v on a small cap near gate. If battery is plugged in, #2 mosfet measures 10V on drain, nothing on gate.
    Mosfets are AON6414A. Datasheet https://datasheetspdf.com/pdf-file/7...ors/AON6414A/1

    Measuring in diode mode I don't find any short to ground on any of the surrounding caps.

    See attached image.
    Attached Files
    Last edited by mgrharry; 05-18-2021, 11:06 PM.
  • mielta
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Apr 2015
    • 368
    • Germany

    #2
    Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

    Hi

    measure on the shutresistor (its the one with R01) if there is short to ground

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    • Sametbey
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Jan 2021
      • 229
      • Turkey

      #3
      Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

      diagram and sample measurements will help. In order to trigger the N-mosfet at the entrance, it must be 25v at the gate. Check the voltages of the charging chip.
      Attached Files
      I'm not happy to be so strong. because it's not humanly

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      • mgrharry
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Sep 2016
        • 211
        • usa

        #4
        Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

        No short to ground on R01

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        • mgrharry
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Sep 2016
          • 211
          • usa

          #5
          Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

          Thanks for the schematic. Unfortunately me and schematics = I tracked down the boardview as well but compared to the Mac board views it's so minimal and disorganized it wasn't much help.

          What charging chip are you referring to Sametbey?

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          • mgrharry
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Sep 2016
            • 211
            • usa

            #6
            Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

            Here are some full size photos showing the entire board top and bottom.
            Attached Files

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            • Spider1211
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Oct 2019
              • 532
              • Mauritius

              #7
              Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

              Charging IC is a small black square chip and will have "BQ735" written on it like this: https://www.leakymosfet.com/products...735-735-qfn-20

              Find the IC on the board and measure voltage on the following pins and report back:
              1. Pin 20 (Vcc)
              2. Pin 6 (ACDET)
              3. Pin 5 (ACOK)

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              • kiwin
                Member
                • May 2021
                • 11
                • Russia

                #8
                Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

                You have a broken power connector. It has 3 contacts. ++19 volts /GND and AD_ID. The AD_ID pin is not triggered in the connector. It should short to GND.

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                • SMDFlea
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 20682
                  • UK

                  #9
                  Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

                  Originally posted by mgrharry
                  Thanks for the schematic. Unfortunately me and schematics = I tracked down the boardview as well but compared to the Mac board views it's so minimal and disorganized it wasn't much help.

                  What charging chip are you referring to Sametbey?
                  Your motherboard is a quanta ZAW , i posted the schematic and boardview -

                  https://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=96065
                  All donations to badcaps are welcome, click on this link to donate. Thanks to all supporters

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                  • mgrharry
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 211
                    • usa

                    #10
                    Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

                    Originally posted by kiwin
                    You have a broken power connector. It has 3 contacts. ++19 volts /GND and AD_ID. The AD_ID pin is not triggered in the connector. It should short to GND.
                    That makes a lot of sense since this happened right after cord was tripped over. I reflowed the 19v pin but maybe the ID pin is busted internally.

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                    • mgrharry
                      Badcaps Veteran
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 211
                      • usa

                      #11
                      Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

                      No chip labeled BQ735, but I did locate BQ24780S
                      https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...272e9b220d.pdf

                      According to that, VCC is pin 28, ACDET pin 6, and ACOK pin 5.
                      VCC = 19.16V
                      ACDET = 0V
                      ACOK = 0V

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                      • Spider1211
                        Badcaps Veteran
                        • Oct 2019
                        • 532
                        • Mauritius

                        #12
                        Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

                        Originally posted by mgrharry
                        No chip labeled BQ735, but I did locate BQ24780S
                        https://cdn.badcaps-static.com/pdfs/...272e9b220d.pdf

                        According to that, VCC is pin 28, ACDET pin 6, and ACOK pin 5.
                        VCC = 19.16V
                        ACDET = 0V
                        ACOK = 0V
                        I was referring to the initial attached schematic. Per new schematic provided by SMDFlea, charger IC is indeed BQ24780s.

                        ACDET should be 2.6V. Check if you have continuity (Ideally from ID pin in charger port) between pin3 (ADP_ID) of adapter input (PJ2) and pin2 of PQ17 . Also measure voltage on pin2 of PQ17 and report back.

                        Since you mentioned tripping over the cable, pretty sure the ADP_ID pin is the issue here.
                        Last edited by Spider1211; 05-26-2021, 08:18 AM.

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                        • kjchatman
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 198
                          • united states

                          #13
                          Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

                          I have this board and it's dead. i'm wondering if this large chip near the charging port that circled red in the pic is a fuse. it has no continuity and is shorted to ground on one side
                          Attached Files

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                          • mon2
                            Badcaps Legend
                            • Dec 2019
                            • 14012
                            • Canada

                            #14
                            Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

                            No. That is a bulk ceramic capacitor. One side is expected to be to ground.

                            Often, fuses that are surface mounted (like this part) are white in color for the body of the component.

                            For your repair attempt, start with where the logic board is powered. Then check that the power supply is making it from the external power adapter -> to the power connector -> to the mosfets that will enable / disable to charge up the local battery, etc.

                            Start with the meter in DC volts mode with black lead to ground. Red lead onto the DC power in jack. Guessing that for this laptop, the DCIN voltage is around 19 Volts and is a round barrel (coax) jack with center pin positive.

                            The more recent designs are with USB Type C power adapters.

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                            • kjchatman
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 198
                              • united states

                              #15
                              Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

                              i'm getting 19v on pin 1 of bq24780s. shouldn't i get the same on pin 2?

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                              • kjchatman
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 198
                                • united states

                                #16
                                Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

                                19v is actually on the vcc pin of bq24780s.

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                                • Sephir0th
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Oct 2020
                                  • 1262
                                  • Germany

                                  #17
                                  Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

                                  Share the actual issue of your Board, History If available and which measurements you did so far before proceeding with anything.
                                  FairRepair on YouTube

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                                  • kjchatman
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Dec 2012
                                    • 198
                                    • united states

                                    #18
                                    Re: Acer A515 Not Charging

                                    it wasn't detecting the charger. I removed pq9 to solve the issue

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