HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

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  • classicandy
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Apr 2018
    • 308
    • Nigeria

    #1

    HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

    Hello,
    I have this HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) with no power either through Battery or AC adapter. S5_ON is not present.

    Initially, there was a partial short on PD10. After replacing PD10, short was gone. Now, 5VS5 is present, but 3VS5 is not present.

    Please, what can be done?
  • classicandy
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Apr 2018
    • 308
    • Nigeria

    #2
    Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

    Also, no voltage at Pin 1 and Pin 3 of PQ20.

    I have replaced PQ20 with a known working one, while the one i removed is working on another board too.
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    • ktmmotocross
      Boardkiller
      • Feb 2014
      • 3582
      • slovakia

      #3
      Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

      must i search for schematic or u upload it here?

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      • Techtiger
        Badcaps Legend
        • Oct 2014
        • 1601
        • france

        #4
        Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

        first check the voltage of PU1 pin 20 5 4 6 ? Gate of PQ20 need 24V to by pass voltage to PR211

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        • piernov
          Super Moderator
          • Jan 2016
          • 4435
          • France

          #5
          Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

          White LED next to AC adapter connector?
          OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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          • classicandy
            Badcaps Veteran
            • Apr 2018
            • 308
            • Nigeria

            #6
            Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

            Originally posted by ktmmotocross
            must i search for schematic or u upload it here?
            I'm sorry, here it is
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            • classicandy
              Badcaps Veteran
              • Apr 2018
              • 308
              • Nigeria

              #7
              Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

              Originally posted by techtiger
              first check the voltage of PU1 pin 20 5 4 6 ? Gate of PQ20 need 24V to by pass voltage to PR211
              PU1
              Pin 20 = 20.0v
              Pin 5 = 2.95v
              Pin 6 = 2.68v
              Pin 4 = 0.00

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              • classicandy
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Apr 2018
                • 308
                • Nigeria

                #8
                Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

                Originally posted by piernov
                White LED next to AC adapter connector?
                Hi, I don't think i understand what you mean...

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                • Techtiger
                  Badcaps Legend
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 1601
                  • france

                  #9
                  Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

                  Originally posted by classicandy
                  PU1
                  Pin 20 = 20.0v
                  Pin 5 = 2.95v
                  Pin 6 = 2.68v
                  Pin 4 = 0.00
                  BQ24738 pin 4 ACDRV is 0V means PQ20 Voltage will not flowit shoud be 24V, pin 4 of PU1 impedance ? PQ20 Gate & Drain impedance ?

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                  • classicandy
                    Badcaps Veteran
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 308
                    • Nigeria

                    #10
                    Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

                    Originally posted by techtiger
                    BQ24738 pin 4 ACDRV is 0V means PQ20 Voltage will not flowit shoud be 24V, pin 4 of PU1 impedance ? PQ20 Gate & Drain impedance ?
                    I don't have an Oscilloscope to measure the Impedance. Any way around that?

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                    • mcplslg123
                      Badcaps Legend
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 7262
                      • india

                      #11
                      Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

                      You dont need an oscilloscope to measure impedance. Just do it with your multimeter.Btw, what@piernov means by asking white led is "whether the light on dc jack is glowing white or not"

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                      • Techtiger
                        Badcaps Legend
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 1601
                        • france

                        #12
                        Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

                        Originally posted by classicandy
                        I don't have an Oscilloscope to measure the Impedance. Any way around that?
                        Tests it with multimeter

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                        • piernov
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 4435
                          • France

                          #13
                          Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

                          You said 5VS5 is present so 19V power rail +VIN should be present.
                          OpenBoardView — https://github.com/OpenBoardView/OpenBoardView

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                          • classicandy
                            Badcaps Veteran
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 308
                            • Nigeria

                            #14
                            Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

                            Originally posted by mcplslg123
                            You dont need an oscilloscope to measure impedance. Just do it with your multimeter.Btw, what@piernov means by asking white led is "whether the light on dc jack is glowing white or not"
                            Ok, No white light. But it does shows Amber led when the battery and AC adapter are connected. It doesn't charge, just shows the Amber led.

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                            • classicandy
                              Badcaps Veteran
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 308
                              • Nigeria

                              #15
                              Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

                              Originally posted by techtiger
                              Tests it with multimeter
                              Please, I need help with this. How do I test with Multimeter to get the Impedance?

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                              • classicandy
                                Badcaps Veteran
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 308
                                • Nigeria

                                #16
                                Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

                                Originally posted by piernov
                                You said 5VS5 is present so 19V power rail +VIN should be present.
                                I forgot to mention, 5VS5 is only present when Battery and AC adapter are connected. +VIN is 14.65

                                Here is my readings [with Battery only]

                                PQ20
                                Pin 4 = 14.20
                                Pin 1 = 14.50
                                Pin 3 = 14.65

                                PU1
                                Pin 1 = 14.65
                                Pin 2 = 14.65
                                Pin 3 = 14.62
                                Pin 4 = 14.54
                                Pin 5 = 0.00
                                Pin 6 = 1.16
                                Pin 20 = 14.20

                                PL8 = 15.23

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                                • Techtiger
                                  Badcaps Legend
                                  • Oct 2014
                                  • 1601
                                  • france

                                  #17
                                  Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

                                  Set your multimeter to the highest resistance range available. the Greek letter omega (Ω), or sometimes by the word “ohms.”

                                  Originally posted by techtiger
                                  BQ24738 pin 4 ACDRV is 0V means PQ20 Voltage will not flowit shoud be 24V, pin 4 of PU1 impedance ? PQ20 Gate & Drain impedance ?
                                  Last edited by Techtiger; 03-19-2020, 03:34 AM.

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                                  • classicandy
                                    Badcaps Veteran
                                    • Apr 2018
                                    • 308
                                    • Nigeria

                                    #18
                                    Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

                                    Originally posted by techtiger
                                    Set your multimeter to the highest resistance range available. the Greek letter omega (Ω), or sometimes by the word “ohms.”
                                    I think that's just me measuring their resistances.

                                    PQ20
                                    Drain = 84k ohms (initially started dropping from Mega ohms)
                                    Gate = 120k ohms

                                    PU1
                                    Pin 4 = 141k ohms

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                                    • classicandy
                                      Badcaps Veteran
                                      • Apr 2018
                                      • 308
                                      • Nigeria

                                      #19
                                      Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

                                      Ok so, I didn't even take into account that I was using the wrong charger. The board is DIS and the recommended charger is 90W meanwhile I'm using a 45W charger.

                                      I've just requested for a 90W charger. I'll post my findings when I receive the right charger.

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                                      • classicandy
                                        Badcaps Veteran
                                        • Apr 2018
                                        • 308
                                        • Nigeria

                                        #20
                                        Re: HP Pavilion 15-P (Y11A) no power, S5_ON not present

                                        After working on the system with Battery only, I've been able to get the system to power On successfully. I haven't gotten the required 90W adapter yet. It's still not powering On with the 45W adapter.

                                        It turns out two resistors were missing PR128 and PR134. After replacing those resistors, it powered On with Battery.
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