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  • rtstorm
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    • Feb 2012
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    #1

    HP ProBook 4510s power problem

    Hello, i have HP 4510s with power issue. No LED, nothing. I try to reflesh BIOS no help.

    I check voltages on DC jack and thy are ok.

    I find that voltage do not go further than Q25. I have 19v on pin 1,2,3,4 but 5,6,7,8 are 0V.

    Is this MOSFET bad?
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  • meritosari
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    • Oct 2010
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    #2
    Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

    i think :
    - p-channel mosfet only work if negative voltage on pin #4
    - u1004 is ic comparator to drive adp_en# come out to give negative voltage than 19v ( around 7-9v)

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    • rtstorm
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      #3
      Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

      i check U1004
      pin1 - 0V
      pin2 - 6V
      pin3 - 0V
      pin4 - 0V
      pin5 - 5V
      pin6 - 0V
      pin7 - 19V
      pin8 - 19V
      ...the quieter you become the more you are able to hear...

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      • meritosari
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        #4
        Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

        i think ic comparator act as system protection, on schematic looks too complicated.
        pin#5 must be high than pin#6 was ok, but pin#3 should be high than pin#2.
        do you use original hp adapter?
        what about q25? try measure resistance on all pin respect to ground.
        and measure D-S, S-D on q25 (off course without adapter and battery)

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        • rtstorm
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          #5
          Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

          I use original HP adapter (i have 2 of them).

          G - gnd = 240 kOhm
          S - gnd = 15.5 kOhm
          D - gnd = 12 kOhm


          D - S = 5.2k kOhm
          S - D = 28.8 kOhm
          ...the quieter you become the more you are able to hear...

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          • meritosari
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            #6
            Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

            Originally posted by rtstorm
            I use original HP adapter (i have 2 of them).

            G - gnd = 240 kOhm
            S - gnd = 15.5 kOhm
            D - gnd = 12 kOhm


            D - S = 5.2k kOhm
            S - D = 28.8 kOhm
            look like still good. did you check another p-channel mosfet? q26, q17 and q13
            measure respect to ground and crossong on those mosfet

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            • rtstorm
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              #7
              Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

              i check them, thy are ok.

              I found that Q1030 has 18 ohm D-S resistance. And coil L1020 has 18 ohm respect to ground
              ...the quieter you become the more you are able to hear...

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              • meritosari
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                #8
                Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

                Originally posted by rtstorm
                i check them, thy are ok.

                I found that Q1030 has 18 ohm D-S resistance. And coil L1020 has 18 ohm respect to ground
                i don't have any word to explain about high impedance. usually on this rail was low resistance. and i think wasn't short. same as cpu still installed, and you measure on that rail you must got low resistance, but after you removed cpu, resistance got high

                i don't have experience with hp that have a lot protection like this.

                but, wait. i think i miss a thing.
                why pin#7 u1004 is 19v, should be lower than 19v. so check R28, R68, R1004

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                • rtstorm
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                  #9
                  Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

                  When i remove CPU i have 21 ohm on Q1030.

                  I cannot find R28, R68 and R1004 but i measure resistance from D1002 pin #2 to GND and i have 92.7 koHm.
                  ...the quieter you become the more you are able to hear...

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                  • samanthban
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                    #10
                    Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

                    I think q 1018 is short..
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                    • rtstorm
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                      #11
                      Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

                      i check Q1018 and it is not shorted. Diode test OK
                      ...the quieter you become the more you are able to hear...

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                      • meritosari
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                        #12
                        Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

                        Originally posted by meritosari
                        i think ic comparator act as system protection, on schematic looks too complicated.
                        pin#5 must be high than pin#6 was ok, but pin#3 should be high than pin#2.
                        do you use original hp adapter?
                        what about q25? try measure resistance on all pin respect to ground.
                        and measure D-S, S-D on q25 (off course without adapter and battery)
                        I've got wrong analyze at post#3
                        pin#3 high if there are charging process, i think it was ok.

                        see attachment to find Resistor what i mean.
                        use continuity for trace connection with Q1005(pin#1), D1002, and LM393 pin#7

                        if short the R that we suspect, it make a sense there is 19v on that pin#4 q25..
                        maybe other expert correct me if i got wrong about this

                        link picture HD quality that i use for reference :
                        http://rusfolder.com/39487276

                        sorry for my bad english
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                        Last edited by meritosari; 07-05-2015, 09:34 AM.

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                        • HarryPK
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                          • rtstorm
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                            #14
                            Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

                            i think i found one of those 2 resistor. I desolder it from board and it is 220 kOhm.
                            ...the quieter you become the more you are able to hear...

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                            • rtstorm
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                              #15
                              Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

                              it is R1004
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                              • meritosari
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                                #16
                                Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

                                one leg connnect to pin#1 mosfet and the other connect to ground, right?
                                if 220k is good. what about rest of 2 resistor that i told you in other side mobo

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                                • rtstorm
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                                  #17
                                  Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

                                  non of them are connected to pin#1 of Q1005. I found one that is connected to pin#1 of Q1005 and it is 220k Ohm when i measure it desoldered from board.
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                                  • meritosari
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                                    #18
                                    Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

                                    nothing progress.... we have to find boardview to find component without mark

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                                    • meritosari
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                                      #19
                                      Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

                                      http://www.qdzbwx.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=366

                                      not have point to download it

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                                      • rtstorm
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                                        #20
                                        Re: HP ProBook 4510s power problem

                                        yes they all ask for payment. Anyone have point to download pleae?
                                        ...the quieter you become the more you are able to hear...

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