Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

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  • atsio
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Oct 2013
    • 819
    • Greece

    #21
    Re: Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

    Check resistance on pin 4 of Q24, PQ2 and PQ23. If resistance is high, remove PU6 and check resistance again on PL6

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    • bicalov
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Nov 2014
      • 294
      • Netherlands

      #22
      Re: Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

      Many thanks for your patience!

      Pin 4:
      Q24 = 9,6 Mohm
      PQ 2 = 8,3 kohm
      PQ23= 64 ohm

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      • atsio
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Oct 2013
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        • Greece

        #23
        Re: Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

        Remove PQ23 and check resistance on pads

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        • bicalov
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          • Nov 2014
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          #24
          Re: Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

          PQ23:
          pin 1= 22 ohm
          pin 2= 22 ohm
          pin 3 = 60 Mohm
          pin 4 = 63 ohm
          pin 5 = 22 ohm
          pin 6 = 22 ohm

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          • atsio
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            • Oct 2013
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            • Greece

            #25
            Re: Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

            If you haven't removed processor, remove it and check again resistance on pin 4 of PQ23

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            • bicalov
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              • Nov 2014
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              #26
              Re: Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

              I can't remove CPU, this is welded to the board

              What should be the value on PQ23 pin 4
              Last edited by bicalov; 06-29-2015, 11:55 AM. Reason: question

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              • atsio
                Badcaps Veteran
                • Oct 2013
                • 819
                • Greece

                #27
                Re: Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

                Much more higher. I am afraid of multiple problems on the 3.3v rail (both sides 3.3v always and 3.3v run)
                Last edited by atsio; 06-29-2015, 12:13 PM.

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                • bicalov
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                  • Nov 2014
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                  #28
                  Re: Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

                  Forget about this mobo?

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                  • atsio
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                    • Oct 2013
                    • 819
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                    #29
                    Re: Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

                    I am not saying that. The price for a replacement one, is quite high. You do not have a mean of injecting voltage to the lines to see what is getting hot and that makes it difficult to find shorts (specially on the 3.3v run line). On the 3.3n always suspects are the fets of PU7, PU6 and KBC. On the 3.3v run there are a lot of suspects (with main suspect CPU).
                    And probably you will need a bga station (I do not know if you have one).

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                    • bicalov
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                      • Nov 2014
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                      #30
                      Re: Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

                      I understand, the price for a replacement is truly very expensive, but I don't have a bga station and Lab power supply for injection voltage. So I don't have much of a chance to fix this. The funds to buy the equipment is not available at the moment.
                      Can you explain how to inject voltage on the lines to check for shortage? That will be the final try for me, since we do so much already. I will create something to imitate a Lab supply.

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                      • Agent24
                        I see dead caps
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 4951
                        • New Zealand

                        #31
                        Re: Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

                        I believe the idea is something like this:

                        Find the place where the shorted rail originates from (eg: the output side of the inductor) and connect your power supply positive rail there. Connect the negative to ground on the board.

                        Removing the inductor so power doesn't end up going back into the supply circuitry or whatever might be a smart idea too.

                        Then, power up the supply (with current limiting and low voltage) and keep increasing the current until something gets hot. Don't exceed the voltage that the rail operates on normally.

                        You can check if things are hot with the back of your finger (imprecise), an IR thermal camera (expensive), or brushing some alcohol onto the board and seeing where it evaporates from the quickest. Or with sufficient current, see which component goes up in smoke (not recommended, burning parts can sometimes burn holes in the PCB)
                        "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                        -David VanHorn

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                        • bicalov
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                          • Nov 2014
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                          #32
                          Re: Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

                          Thanks agent24, I understand what to do. I will make myself a PSU first.

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                          • Agent24
                            I see dead caps
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 4951
                            • New Zealand

                            #33
                            Re: Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

                            Originally posted by bicalov
                            Thanks agent24, I understand what to do. I will make myself a PSU first.
                            You will need something with adjustable current limiting and without short-circuit protection.
                            "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                            -David VanHorn

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                            • mk praveen
                              Member
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 33
                              • india

                              #34
                              Re: Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

                              hi,
                              can any one share me the bios file for dell vostro 3360......

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                              • Agent24
                                I see dead caps
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 4951
                                • New Zealand

                                #35
                                Re: Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

                                Have you tried Dell website?
                                "Tantalum for the brave, Solid Aluminium for the wise, Wet Electrolytic for the adventurous"
                                -David VanHorn

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                                • charafmak77
                                  Senior Member
                                  • Oct 2017
                                  • 81
                                  • jijel

                                  #36
                                  Re: Dell Vostro 3360 no power on

                                  hi please I need bios bin fils for Dell Vostro 3360

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