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  • grimacelord
    Badcaps Veteran
    • Jan 2017
    • 367
    • USA

    #1

    A2338 820-02020-A | Battery Not Detected/Random Reboots

    Hello,

    I have a A2338 MacBook Pro here that came to me because the battery wasn't being detected. The owner tried to replace the battery themselves thinking that the battery was the problem but the behavior continues even with their new aftermarket battery. They also accidentally ripped off the black plastic clasp to the battery flex cable connector @ J5151, but I pulled that off of a donor board and replaced that for them already. I did quickly check to see if that was simply the problem, but it's not.

    First thing I checked was I2C_SMC_PWR_3V3_SCL and I2C_SMC_PWR_3V3_SCA in diode mode with no power or battery connected. I found that I2C_SMC_PWR_3V3_SCA is showing a short on that line reading at 0.015V. I2C_SMC_PWR_3V3_SCL reads 0.624V in diode mode. I then checked the schematic and tried removing any of the components on that line that are attached to ground to try and find which component is shorted. I removed U5150, CD201, and UD201, but the short remains. So then I checked to see if there is also a short present on PP3V3_AON and PP3V3_S2, but there is not.

    I'm still learning this type of repairs, but from my limited knowledge and looking at the schematic, I am failing to see what other components could be responsible for bringing the I2C_SMC_PWR_3V3_SCA line short to ground.

    I am really not sure what I need to check next, so I was hoping someone could help me out here. Thank you.
  • mon2
    Badcaps Legend
    • Dec 2019
    • 14024
    • Canada

    #2
    Post pics of the removed UD201 and U5150 areas of the board.

    With these parts removed, there should be no short on I2C_SMC_PWR_3V3_SDA / I2C_SMC_PWR_3V3_SCL.

    Remove all power. Meter in resistance mode (not diode mode). Measure the resistance to ground on:

    I2C_SMC_PWR_3V3_SCL
    I2C_SMC_PWR_3V3_SDA


    Post the measurements in ohms.

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    • grimacelord
      Badcaps Veteran
      • Jan 2017
      • 367
      • USA

      #3
      Originally posted by mon2
      Post pics of the removed UD201 and U5150 areas of the board.

      With these parts removed, there should be no short on I2C_SMC_PWR_3V3_SDA / I2C_SMC_PWR_3V3_SCL.

      Remove all power. Meter in resistance mode (not diode mode). Measure the resistance to ground on:

      I2C_SMC_PWR_3V3_SCL
      I2C_SMC_PWR_3V3_SDA


      Post the measurements in ohms.
      I2C_SMC_PWR_3V3_SCL - (In Ohms scale on my multimeter) reads 0L. (if I set to auto-range - 13.53kohms)
      I2C_SMC_PWR_3V3_SDA - 11.4 Ohms

      Attached are pictures from the two areas as requested. Please disregard my flux stains that surrounds the area. I will clean that up later. I tried to cleanup the area you're interested in a bit with some isopropyl alcohol so what you're seeing surrounding the area is flux.
      Attached Files

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      • grimacelord
        Badcaps Veteran
        • Jan 2017
        • 367
        • USA

        #4
        The only other thing I can think of is the battery flex cable connector itself, J5151. I have removed all of the components on the I2C_SMC_PWR_3V3_SDA line that could be responsible for bringing it short to ground and the short is still there. The only component I haven't removed yet is J5151. Could that be the culprit? And if not, what else could it be? Internal short?

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        • grimacelord
          Badcaps Veteran
          • Jan 2017
          • 367
          • USA

          #5
          Wow. That was it. The connector was the problem. As soon as I removed the connector J5151, the short cleared. Thanks for your help mon2. Solved.

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          • mon2
            Badcaps Legend
            • Dec 2019
            • 14024
            • Canada

            #6
            Well done. I was on the sidelines on this one but at least we can agree that it is logical for the suspected region of the defect. Good job!!

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