Sony M851 MBX-217 no POST and restart loop

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  • davidebeatrici
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2020
    • 86
    • Italy

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    Sony M851 MBX-217 no POST and restart loop

    Before proceeding with a component level repair, the usual troubleshooting process was followed:

    1. Disassemble and unplug everything except the power connector.
    2. Replace RAM.
    3. Replace CPU.
    4. Rewrite BIOS.

    Unfortunately the board was still stuck with a 0.75A power consumption at 19V.

    After reflowing both GPU and north bridge in one shot (it can't hurt) there was an instant improvement with a constant 1.75A power consumption, but I immediately noticed smoke and the typical smell coming from the GPU area.
    I thought to myself "Well, seems like the GPU is dead", but no! The culprit was Q57, which is an N-channel MOSFET (2N7002). Its temperature went over 150°!

    Click image for larger version  Name:	Q57.png Views:	0 Size:	162.7 KB ID:	3674281 Click image for larger version  Name:	Q57_2.jpg Views:	0 Size:	759.3 KB ID:	3674284 Click image for larger version  Name:	Q57_1.jpg Views:	0 Size:	623.1 KB ID:	3674285

    Thermal imaging also revealed another component heating up, around 50°: PU10, which is a linear regulator (APL5913).

    Click image for larger version  Name:	PU10.png Views:	0 Size:	165.3 KB ID:	3674283 Click image for larger version  Name:	PU10_1.jpg Views:	0 Size:	720.3 KB ID:	3674286 Click image for larger version  Name:	PU10_2.jpg Views:	0 Size:	716.3 KB ID:	3674287

    I removed the chip and injecting 0.8V caused a spot on the top of the GPU to heat up, where there are several capacitors. However, the culprit was actually a fully shorted capacitor on the back of the board:

    Click image for larger version  Name:	shorted_cap_1.jpg Views:	0 Size:	852.0 KB ID:	3674288 Click image for larger version  Name:	shorted_cap_2.jpg Views:	0 Size:	728.6 KB ID:	3674289 Click image for larger version  Name:	shorted_cap_3.jpg Views:	0 Size:	801.7 KB ID:	3674290

    Removing the shorted capacitor and putting the chip back resulted in 0.07A less of current absorption from the power supply.

    Now it is time to figure out what's going on with Q57, these are the measurements I took:

    G: 8.0-8.5V
    S: Ground
    D: 3.3V

    Please note that sometimes the board stays in the initial state with a 0.68A power consumption and drain is almost 0V.

    Removing the MOSFET and injecting 3.3V on the drain results in 0.38A being pushed, to PQ20 (IRF8707PbF) and PU11 (TPS51120) according to the thermal camera:

    Click image for larger version  Name:	PQ20.png Views:	0 Size:	225.1 KB ID:	3674293 Click image for larger version  Name:	PU11.png Views:	0 Size:	306.7 KB ID:	3674292 Click image for larger version  Name:	PQ20_PU11.jpg Views:	0 Size:	920.3 KB ID:	3674291

    A different component but of the same type in place of Q57 heats up to the same degree. I deliberately left the drain leg lifted to see what happens when I connect it to the pad: temperature goes up immediately and the overall current consumption increases by 0.05A.

    Here's a video showing the board in a restart loop, along with the current consumption:



    At this point I'm suspecting PU11 is damaged, but I would like to hear other opinions first. Thanks in advance!
  • davidebeatrici
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2020
    • 86
    • Italy

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